On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 11:38 PM Brian Stansberry <
brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 5:20 AM Darran Lofthouse <
darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2024 at 3:01 PM Brian Stansberry <
> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 6:14 AM Darran Lofthouse <
>> darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
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>>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 11:51 AM Yeray Borges Santana <
>>> yborgess(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:40 PM Brian Stansberry <
>>>> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:45 AM Yeray Borges Santana <
>>>>> yborgess(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 2:33 AM Brian Stansberry <
>>>>>> brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've got a lot ofJIRAs with 'Critical' priority
that have been
>>>>>>> inactive for a long time. I think we should define
'Critical' as roughly
>>>>>>> "important enough that we need to work on it soon."
At some point if
>>>>>>> something goes unaddressed long enough that's a sign that
it's not
>>>>>>> important enough to be called critical.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I propose doing the following: for any Critical WFLY or
WFCORE that
>>>>>>> was opened > 12 months ago and hasn't shown signs of
activity since the WF
>>>>>>> 32 release, I'll leave a comment saying I plan to
downgrade it to Major
>>>>>>> unless the assignee says they plan to deal with it for the WF
34 cycle. And
>>>>>>> then a couple weeks later downgrade issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Similarly, for issues with Fix Version 33.0.0.Final that have
been
>>>>>>> rolling from release to release since WF 31 or earlier, when
I release 33 I
>>>>>>> intend to remove the Fix Version instead of rolling it to
34.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do agree regarding the "Critical" ones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And about the issues rolling from release to release, I would say
we
>>>>>> should apply the same policy for WildFly Core issues too.
>>>>>> Removing the fix version if the Jira is not resolved will help
>>>>>> developers keep their intentions up to date.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking to give a bit of grace there, but this morning my
>>>>> initial reference to WF 31 seems like too much. Perhaps letting it
roll one
>>>>> time is enough, so something scheduled for 33 can roll to 34, but if
it was
>>>>> originally for 32 or earlier, unschedule it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That sounds good to me, although checking the original schedule
>>>> on an already rolled Jira will require checking non-resolved Jiras one
by
>>>> one to verify what was its original schedule. Well, maybe there won't
be
>>>> too many Jiras, or it might be a simple task to do or even can be done
>>>> automatically. Otherwise, I would still consider letting the developer
>>>> review its intention on each new release.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If the fix versions were created in Jira before the Beta release, maybe
>>> between Beta and Final we could ask developers to move issues forward if
>>> they were still needed and then just unschedule the rest.
>>>
>>
>> For full WF my preference is just to look at them and unschedule or roll
>> forward as part of my normal release work. I look at them already as part
>> of scanning for work that needs to get done before the release, so doing
>> that is easiest for me. I don't want to have to do round trip discussions.
>>
>
> I was thinking of more of a one time notification so as I release Beta I
> ask current assignees to review their open issues. More of a move it or
> lose it approach ;-) They can also always be added back manually.
>
Ok, we can come up with wording and try that with 34. I'll do it manually
for 33.
We could start softly got 34 and I will just send out a notification
encouraging a clean up of current scheduled issues, seems like a good
practice anyway to encourage at release time.
I think the initial cleanup will mostly take care of the problem.
>
>>
>> Yeray, you're the one who does WF Core releases, so I think what works
>> best for you is fine.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Brian Stansberry
>>>>>>> Principal Architect, Red Hat JBoss EAP
>>>>>>> WildFly Project Lead
>>>>>>> He/Him/His
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