9:30 a.m.
Coming back to this, after a loooooooooooooong, looooooong time...
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From: Summers Pittman <supittma(a)redhat.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Aerogear-users] categories have been hijacked
To: aerogear-users(a)lists.jboss.org
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Kelvin Lunsford <kelvin(a)qantel.com> wrote:
Hi Summers,
GCM topic messages go to all devices registered for the topic. Topic
notifications cannot be restricted to an alias or list of aliases.
The way it worked before, and still works on ios, you can send a command
to UPS with an "alias" name AND a "categories" name and it will only
go to
devices that have registered using that "alias" name AND that
"categories"
name. UPS finds which devices meet the selection criteria and push
notification requests are sent for those devices.
Requests with aliases and categories can target specific users in a group.
With real "categories" you can segment users into groups, so every device
can be assigned a category, and sub-groups can be defined by using more
than one category per device. This is useful for geographic or
organizational targeting.
I have no problem with GCM topics. Just make it a new feature. Give me
back my categories.
So the goal isn't to replace or hijack categories with topics. The goal is
to leverage Google's API fully and transparently to the UPS user so that we
make fewer calls and provide a better experience. You have some great use
cases that haven't been brought up. Keep in mind that the PRs open right
now are a "first draft" of the technology.
NOTE: Between Google IO 2015 and now, April 2016, there was a change on
topics: No more limitations of subscribed devices! Before it was limited to
1 million.
Now, this also means options :-) We could just auto register each android
device to one topic (e.g. /topics/VARIANT_ID), *IF* there is no category
provided!
Regarding the concerns, to 'alias' or any other criteria, my understanding
is that, for now, we just use GCM topic only if nothing else, than the
category is provided to the RESTful Sender API.
However, we could extend our Device Group feature, and kinda group all
devices to a users group, and have the category play in there too. E.g.
have some groups like:
* matthias_football
* matthias_music
but the sending here, would be a message to a device group, not a category
-Matthias
Feel free to join in on the discussion about topics on aerogear-dev. It
is really important we do this right and I think you can help with that.
Summers
- Kelvin
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From: aerogear-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto:
aerogear-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Summers Pittman
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:12 PM
To: aerogear-users(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [Aerogear-users] categories have been hijacked
>
>On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Kelvin Lunsford <kelvin(a)qantel.com>
wrote:
>Setting "categories" in the push payload was working for android and ios
in cordova push plugin 1.1.1.
>
>For version 2.0.2 "categories" only works for ios.
>
>It looks like "categories" is being hijacked in android for a GCM feature
called "topics".
>
>I liked "categories". I was using it. Now it's gone. GCM topics is
not
a drop-in replacement. It's not the same thing.
What do categories do that topics do not do?
>New features should get new names and new commands.
>
>- Kelvin
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