Re: [forge-dev] Forge build back to Stable (Hack away!)

Hi folks! I installed Windows XP on a VirtualBox instance. Then installed Java and Maven and extracted the latest dev build of forge. I started it and got the following exception (pasting the most relevant part): Exception in thread "Thread-2" javax.enterprise.event.ObserverException at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstruct orAccessorImpl.java:39) at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingC onstructorAccessorImpl.java:27) at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:513) .... *Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not initialize class org.fusesource.jansi.internal.Kernel32* at org.fusesource.jansi.internal.WindowsSupport.getConsoleMode(WindowsSu pport.java:48) at org.jboss.forge.shell.console.jline.WindowsTerminal.getConsoleMode(Wi ndowsTerminal.java:257) at org.jboss.forge.shell.console.jline.WindowsTerminal.init(WindowsTermi nal.java:94) So I searched Google for the NoClassDefFoundError and came upon this link: http://fusesource.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=10985 This seemed to be the clue: *The problem is missing dll from Visual C++ libraries on the windows XP. I follow the following instruction : http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=5582 And now, it's good* I installed the VC++ libraries from the above link and forge eventually worked :-) Could you try it? Cheers, Ivan On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov <ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Hi! > > Unfortunately, I am using Windows 7. At home I have one Windows Vista, > but no XP. I can create a VirtualBox instance and install XP inside, but it > will take me some time. > > BTW, if it is really hanging, can you (Richard or Koen) press Ctrl+Break > and see whether some thread is causing this? > > Cheers! > Ivan > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Richard Kennard < > richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt; wrote: > >> Yeah it never starts up. >> >> To be absolutely clear: >> >> 1. It does not crash or die. There is no stack trace or return to the >> command prompt. >> 2. It runs in the sense that you get a flashing cursor that just sits >> there. But it does not display the 'Forge' ASCII art or anything >> 3. It is evidently waiting on input, because if you hit return the >> cursor moves down a line. But only once. Pressing return a second time does >> nothing >> >> On 7/12/2011 3:31 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote: >> > I think they mean that it never starts up, which is very strange to me. >> > >> > Happy holiday! I haven't actually heard of that one before (ignorant >> me.) But have fun :) >> > >> > I do want to work on the startup time, but this "never starting" >> behavior is very strange and I can't reproduce it on windows 7. >> > >> > Hopefully Koen will be able to. (Unless you have access to a windows >> 95 box?) >> > >> > ~Lincoln >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Ivan St. Ivanov < >> ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com <mailto:ivan.st.ivanov@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Lincoln, folks! >> > >> > Sure I will help. However, I wonder a couple of things: >> > >> > 1) What do you mean by hanging? Yes, Forge takes some 5-10 seconds >> to start, but it finally starts. So do you aim at ~2 seconds start or maybe >> at >> > Koen's and Richard's computers it never starts at all >> > >> > 2) When I start the debug session, should I put somewhere >> breakpoints? If yes, where? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Ivan >> > >> > P.S. Sorry, but I'll do that tomorrow! Today is St. Nicolas's day >> here in Bulgaria (and I believe in the whole Christian world) and right now >> I am >> > celebrating with a friend of mine his name's day ;-) >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III < >> lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Awesome, thanks koen. >> > >> > Ivan, >> > >> > Could I ask you a favor? Could you follow the debugging >> instructions in FORGE-400 (comments) and try to find our where Forge is >> hanging at >> > runtime? This would help me a *lot* since I cannot get access >> to an XP machine right now. >> > >> > ~Lincoln >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: >> > >> > I have created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-400. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Koen >> > >> > Op 6-dec.-2011, om 09:20 heeft Richard Kennard het >> volgende geschreven: >> > >> > >> on Windows 7: run hangs right after startup >> > > >> > > Yes, I can confirm this. >> > > >> > > Richard. >> > > >> > > On 6/12/2011 6:16 PM, Koen Aers wrote: >> > >> This is very strange. I didn't go into the details but >> while running the tests on XP I had to use the "line.separator" property >> because >> > the output in the >> > >> test contained "\r\n" and not "\n". >> > >> I'm confused now… >> > >> >> > >> Btw, I don't know what's happening but I can's seem to >> build trunk on any other platform than OSX. >> > >> >> > >> - on XP: build as well as run hang >> > >> - on Windows 7: build fails with compilation error, run >> hangs right after startup >> > >> - on Fedora 16: build fails with (another) compilation >> error, run is ok >> > >> >> > >> I tried the runs with a snapshot build that I did on >> OSX. I'll create a JIRA issue to track these problems. >> > >> >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> Koen >> > >> >> > >> Op 5-dec.-2011, om 22:24 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het >> volgende geschreven: >> > >> >> > >>> Hi folks, >> > >>> >> > >>> Richard, thanks a lot for the hint! After downloading >> the latest version my source compiles. >> > >>> >> > >>> However, now I get an error in the test: >> JavaClassTest::testFormattingIsNotChanged. The problem is in the asserts >> that check whether the >> > output contains >> > >>> Telephone + line.separator + {. The next assert, which >> also has the line.separator inside, fails too. I am running on Windows. And >> there >> > line.separator >> > >>> is \r\n. However, in the output we get just \n. Which >> is fine on Mac or UNIX. >> > >>> >> > >>> If I change the asserts like this (replace >> line.separator with \n): >> > >>> >> > >>> assertTrue(output.contains( >> > >>> "Telephone\n{")); >> > >>> assertTrue(output.contains( >> > >>> ")\n {")); >> > >>> >> > >>> ...it works on Windows. >> > >>> >> > >>> Of course it's better to fix this in the code, but I >> saw that the toString method uses the stuff from Eclipse >> > (org.eclipse.jface.text.Document, >> > >>> org.eclipse.text.edits.TextEdit, >> org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.CompilationUnit). So I'm not sure whether we can >> do anything there. Unless some >> > of you has >> > >>> commit permissions in Eclipse or my observations are >> wrong :-) >> > >>> >> > >>> What do you think? >> > >>> >> > >>> Cheers! >> > >>> Ivan >> > >>> >> > >>> P.S. If I change the test like above (with \n instead >> of line.separator), the maven build is successful >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Richard Kennard < >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> >> > <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> Ivan, >> > >>> >> > >>> Apologies. Forge is currently building against a >> Metawidget snapshot, and that snapshot is still changing. You will need to >> pull the >> > latest Forge >> > >>> build in >> > >>> order to get the changes (HtmlTableLayout has become >> HtmlPanelGridLayout). >> > >>> >> > >>> Regards, >> > >>> >> > >>> Richard. >> > >>> >> > >>> On 5/12/2011 1:58 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote: >> > >>>> Hi guys! >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I did not pull or merge anything since my last >> successful build (or at least I think so). And now I have a compilation >> problem: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> [ERROR] >> \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[87,60] >> > >>>> cannot find symbol >> > >>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout >> > >>>> location: package >> org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout >> > >>>> >> > >>>> [ERROR] >> \projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[354,48] >> > >>>> cannot find symbol >> > >>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout >> > >>>> location: class >> org.jboss.forge.scaffold.faces.FacesScaffold >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> The HtmlTableLayout class is in the >> org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout package coming from >> the >> > >>> org.metawidget.modules/metawidget-all >> > >>>> dependency (version 1.35-SNAPSHOT). There is really >> no such class in the metawidget library. I went on to check the jboss maven >> > repository. The class >> > >>>> HTMLTableLayout Indeed existed in older versions of >> the jar. However, it's not there in latest ones (those after 1st December). >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Does anybody else have the same problem? >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Thanks, >> > >>>> Ivan >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Koen Aers < >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com> <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com >> > <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com<mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> After fixing the failing test on XP, another problem >> shows up… >> > >>>> >> > >>>> The test 'ValidationFacetTest' in 'forge-javaee-impl' >> hangs while initializing the fixture. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> More in detail, the call 'beanManager.fireEvent(new >> Startup())' in the 'beforeTest()' method of the class >> > 'SingletonAbstractShellTest.java' never >> > >>>> returns. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I have no clue as to what might be the cause of this. >> Any suggestions welcome. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Cheers, >> > >>>> Koen >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Op 1-dec.-2011, om 09:15 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het >> volgende geschreven: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Hi, >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> I does hang for ~5 seconds. Not sure if that is >> problematic. But Beta 3 has the same behavior. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Once it is started I don't see any delays (created >> new project, setup persistence, added an entity and a field). >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Cheers! >> > >>>>> Ivan >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Richard Kennard < >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> >> > <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt; <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com >> > <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> But does it run okay? For me, it kept hanging at the >> command prompt after I typed 'bin/forge'. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Richard. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> On 1/12/2011 10:08 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote: >> > >>>>>> Maven build is successful on Windows 7 :-) >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Keith Babo < >> kbabo(a)redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com >> > <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com<mailto: >> kbabo(a)redhat.com&gt; <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>>> >> > >>> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com> >> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>> <mailto: >> kbabo(a)redhat.com >> > <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com<mailto: >> kbabo(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> You could always spin up a job on the JBoss Jenkins >> server to build this on Windows for you …. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III >> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Hey Koen, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Could I ask you to look in to this? I am not at a >> place where I have access to windows, and I don't see that error on OSX. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Thanks! >> > >>>>>>> ~Lincoln >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Koen Aers < >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com> <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com >> > <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com<mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt; >> > <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>> >> > >>>>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt; <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto: >> koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I was able to build, test and run without issues >> on OSX. On Windows (XP) the build stopped after the following failing test. >> I didn't >> > >>>>>>> investigate any further. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Cheers, >> > >>>>>>> Koen >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >>>>>>> Test set: >> org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest >> > >>>>>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >>>>>>> Tests run: 25, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, >> Time elapsed: 0.078 sec <<< FAILURE! >> > >>>>>>> >> testFormattingIsNotChanged(org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest) >> Time elapsed: 0.015 sec <<< FAILURE! >> > >>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError: >> > >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.fail(Assert.java:91) >> > >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:43) >> > >>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:54) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest.testFormattingIsNotChanged(JavaClassTest.java:77) >> > >>>>>>> at >> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) >> > >>>>>>> at >> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) >> > >>>>>>> at >> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) >> > >>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod$1.runReflectiveCall(FrameworkMethod.java:44) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.internal.runners.model.ReflectiveCallable.run(ReflectiveCallable.java:15) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod.invokeExplosively(FrameworkMethod.java:41) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.internal.runners.statements.InvokeMethod.evaluate(InvokeMethod.java:20) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunBefores.evaluate(RunBefores.java:28) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:76) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:50) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$3.run(ParentRunner.java:193) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$1.schedule(ParentRunner.java:52) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.runChildren(ParentRunner.java:191) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.access$000(ParentRunner.java:42) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$2.evaluate(ParentRunner.java:184) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.run(ParentRunner.java:236) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4TestSet.execute(JUnit4TestSet.java:59) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:115) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:102) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java:180) >> > >>>>>>> at >> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) >> > >>>>>>> at >> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) >> > >>>>>>> at >> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) >> > >>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java:350) >> > >>>>>>> at >> org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java:1021) >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Richard Kennard < >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> >> > <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt; <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com >> > <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>> >> > >>>>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt; <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com >> > <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>> <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> >> > >>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto: >> richard(a)kennardconsulting.com&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Lincoln, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> The build seems to run, and there are no lingering >> test failures, but on Windows the distribution fails to start up? It just >> hangs at the >> > >>>>>>> command prompt, >> > >>>>>>> without printing 'Forge' in ASCII text or >> anything. It appears to be waiting for keyboard input, as if I press ENTER >> the cursor moves >> > down >> > >>>>>>> once, but then >> > >>>>>>> it too stops. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I have grown so used to Forge telling me I'm an >> idiot for running Windows, but now it won't even do that :) >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Regards, >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Richard. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On 30/11/2011 9:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> What was the problem in the end ? >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> My guess was a memory leak in forge or the >> testsuite - did I win ? >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> /max >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 22:16, Lincoln Baxter, III >> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Please feel free to run the full build on any >> operating system, without the aggravation of lingering test failures! >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III >> > >>>>>>>>> http://ocpsoft.com <http://ocpsoft.com/> < >> http://ocpsoft.com/> <http://ocpsoft.com/> >> > >>>>>>>>> http://scrumshark.com <http://scrumshark.com/> < >> http://scrumshark.com/> <http://scrumshark.com/> >> > >>>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple" >> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>>>>> /max >> > >>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>> >> > >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>> >> > >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III >> > >>>>>>> http://ocpsoft.com <http://ocpsoft.com/> < >> http://ocpsoft.com/> <http://ocpsoft.com/> >> > >>>>>>> http://scrumshark.com <http://scrumshark.com/> < >> http://scrumshark.com/> <http://scrumshark.com/> >> > >>>>>>> "Keep it Simple" >> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>> >> > >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>> >> > >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; >> > >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>>> forge-dev mailing list >> > >>>>> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; 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<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> forge-dev mailing list >> > >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > forge-dev mailing list >> > > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > forge-dev mailing list >> > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto: >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Lincoln Baxter, III >> > http://ocpsoft.com >> > http://scrumshark.com >> > "Keep it Simple" >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > forge-dev mailing list >> > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > forge-dev mailing list >> > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Lincoln Baxter, III >> > http://ocpsoft.com >> > http://scrumshark.com >> > "Keep it Simple" >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > forge-dev mailing list >> > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> forge-dev mailing list >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > > _______________________________________________ forge-dev mailing list forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev