hi, thanks for the feedback. there was a bug in one of the tests that
caused the latest version of æsh not being deployed on friday. so unless
you built æsh from source it would probably fail on saturday as well :/
- im hoping its fixed now, if not im at a loss on what's wrong since the
output should be "correct" ansi.
ståle
On 18.01.14 22:08, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
... ah, forgot it, here is the ANSI string:
[;39;49m[[;34mforge[;39m]$
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Ivan St. Ivanov
<ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Stale,
>
> After applying the latest changes, when I start Forge, after the first
> blue characters, all the characters are blue. Even after exit Forge,
> shell's foreground keeps to be blue. Here's again my code:
>
> List<TerminalCharacter> prompt = new LinkedList<>();
> prompt.add(new TerminalCharacter('['));
> for (char c : currentResource.getName().toCharArray())
> {
> prompt.add(new TerminalCharacter(c, new
> TerminalColor(Color.BLUE, Color.DEFAULT)));
> }
> prompt.add(new TerminalCharacter(']', new
> TerminalColor(Color.DEFAULT, Color.DEFAULT)));
> prompt.add(new TerminalCharacter('$'));
> prompt.add(new TerminalCharacter(' '));
> return new Prompt(prompt);
>
> Cheers,
> Ivan
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ståle W Pedersen <spederse(a)redhat.com>wrote:
>
>> yes, thats the page i often refer to as well. - and its how
>> TerminalCharacters work in æsh.
>>
>> ståle
>>
>> On 17.01.14 8:48, Koen Aers wrote:
>> >As per this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code (it's
>> wikipedia, so I don't know how correct/wrong it is) the SGR command
>> modifies the graphics rendering by adding to the previous state. So if the
>> background is blue and the foreground is red and characters are bold,
>> modifying the background to white will keep the boldness and the red
>> foreground. This also means the order of the commands should not play a
>> role.
>> >
>> >Op 17-jan.-2014, om 01:00 heeft Ståle W Pedersen het volgende geschreven:
>> >
>> >> hi, thanks for the feedback.
>> >> i see that there is indeed a bug in how TerminalCharacter is displayed.
>> >> - there is a TerminalCharacter.toString(TerminalCharacter tc) that
>> tries
>> >> to compare with the previous to reduce the data written to stream,
>> but
>> >> it has a bug and do not display it correctly.
>> >>
>> >> By design it was planned that TerminalCharacter should not
"reset" so
>> if
>> >> you set a TerminalCharacter with color green that color should be for
>> >> all upcoming characters unless a new one is set.
>> >>
>> >> TerminalString however do in fact reset at its end (by design).
>> >>
>> >> I do not know if the ordering matter, afaik it shouldnt, but it might
>> be
>> >> that that is why jansi has bleeding of colors on windows??
>> >>
>> >> ståle
>> >>
>> >> On 16.01.14 23:52, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
>> >>> Hey George, Stale,
>> >>>
>> >>> I did some debugging in Forge, Aesh and even Jansi sources. Before
>> that, I
>> >>> tried to change the color of the current folder name when creating
the
>> >>> prompt:
>> >>>
>> >>> // in org.jboss.forge.addon.shell.ShellImpl::createPrompt()
>> >>>
>> >>> for (char c : currentResource.getName().toCharArray())
>> >>> {
>> >>> prompt.add(new TerminalCharacter(c, new
>> >>> TerminalColor(Color.GREEN, Color.DEFAULT)));
>> >>> }
>> >>>
>> >>> So I expect that as a result of that, all of the characters of the
>> current
>> >>> directory name would be green. However it is only the first
character.
>> >>> After some more debugging, I found that for a directory called
>> *forge* the
>> >>> ANSI string passed to the Jansi library
>> >>> is: [;39;49m[ [;32mf [mo [mr [mg [me [;39m] [m$ [m (there is an
ESC
>> symbol
>> >>> character before each [). As far as I got it, those constants 39,
32,
>> etc.
>> >>> denote the foreground (i.e. character) color. So, the question now
is:
>> >>>
>> >>> Do you have to set the foreground color once and then it is valid
for
>> all
>> >>> the next characters before you set it again, or you have to set it
for
>> >>> every character in the ANSI string. I think that Aesh's logic
follows
>> the
>> >>> first approach, so is this correct? I'm afraid
>> >>> Jansi's AnsiOutputStream.write(int) method is a too complex FSM
for
>> me in
>> >>> this late hour, so I stopped there :)
>> >>>
>> >>> What else bothers me is the ordering of the style and color
constants
>> for
>> >>> the first character of the prompt. Shouldn't it be the other way
round
>> >>> (first the style and then the color)?
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Ivan
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:35 PM, George Gastaldi <
>> ggastald(a)redhat.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> That's right. We expect a PR from you asap :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Em 15/01/2014, às 18:28, "Ivan St. Ivanov"
<ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>> escreveu:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ah, so the coloring is in Forge, not in Aesh? Good, at least I
will
>> try to
>> >>>> get acquainted with the code if not fix it ;)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:24 PM, George Gastaldi <
>> ggastald(a)redhat.com>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hey Ivan,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We had to remove the colors because the colors were
"bleeding" to
>> the
>> >>>>> next character. If you could have a look at it, the code is
in
>> >>>>> ShellImpl.createPrompt().
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Pull requests are always more than welcomed. :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Em 15/01/2014, às 18:21, "Ivan St. Ivanov" <
>> ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com>
>> >>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Stale, folks!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I just tried the new Forge 2.0 and it works perfectly :)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I just miss the prompt coloring. In Forge 1 we had different
color
>> for
>> >>>>> the current directory name if it is inside a project.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> BTW, I see that the new-project command was changed to
project-new.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>> Ivan
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 3:39 AM, George Gastaldi <
>> ggastald(a)redhat.com>wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Excellent Stale! Thanks for your help on this.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Em 12/01/2014, às 23:06, Ståle W Pedersen
<spederse(a)redhat.com>
>> >>>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> hi, ive deployed a new version of 0.46-SNAPSHOT that
hopefully
>> should
>> >>>>>>> have most of the arrow-key + line redraw bugs
fixed.
>> >>>>>>> - please let me know if it works better other places
as well.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> these issues were introduced back in oct/nov i think
(during our
>> >>>>>> meeting
>> >>>>>>> in raleigh lincoln :) when we optimized the input
and line draw
>> in æsh.
>> >>>>>>> - i think its time i get a working windows
setup....
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> i havent looked at the path issue so that still
needs to be fixed.
>> >>>>>>> - but ill prioritize the close issue atm.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ståle
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 11.01.14 17:10, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> You can find in maven under:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> org.jboss.aesh:aesh:0.46-SNAPSHOT
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The github repo/org is here:
https://github.com/aeshell/aesh
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ~Lincoln
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Ståle W
Pedersen <
>> >>>>>> spederse(a)redhat.com>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> hi, ivan it is most likely an æsh bug (which
forge uses for
>> shell
>> >>>>>>>>> interaction). to quickly debug æsh you could
just start a simple
>> >>>>>> example
>> >>>>>>>>> program like: java -cp
aesh-0.46-SNAPSHOT.jar AeshExample
>> >>>>>>>>> - you should have the aesh jar in your local
mvn cache.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> AeshExample should log to TMP/aesh.log and
there is a log line
>> >>>>>> starting
>> >>>>>>>>> with "GOT:" for each input. that
input should match whatever is
>> >>>>>>>>> specified in Key.java (in æsh).
>> >>>>>>>>> from what you've described above it
seems that ive introduced a
>> bug
>> >>>>>> in a
>> >>>>>>>>> later release with this or it might also be
the parsing.
>> whatever you
>> >>>>>>>>> find out will no matter help.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> regards, ståle
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11.01.14 21:18, Ivan St. Ivanov
wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I just created this JIRA:
>> >>>>>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1425
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> As I wrote in the first email, I would
like to help resolving
>> it. I
>> >>>>>> just
>> >>>>>>>>>> need some guidance on where to look.
George asked me to run the
>> >>>>>> unit tests
>> >>>>>>>>>> and I tried. However, the addon-manager
tests failed and I
>> couldn't
>> >>>>>> find
>> >>>>>>>>>> the reason. :(
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>> Ivan
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Lincoln
Baxter, III <
>> >>>>>>>>>> lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, thank you for finding these
issues! Looks like we know
>> what
>> >>>>>> we will
>> >>>>>>>>>>> be working on next few days :)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:40 PM,
George Gastaldi <
>> >>>>>> ggastald(a)redhat.com
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Could you open a JIRA with these
issues and mark it as
>> Blocker? We
>> >>>>>>>>> can't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> release 2.0.0.Final unless this
is fixed.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 08/01/2014, às 11:18,
"Ivan St. Ivanov" <
>> >>>>>> ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, forgot to mention that
this is with snapshot from
>> December,
>> >>>>>>>>> 29th.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The situation was the same with
all the previous betas and
>> alphas.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:13 PM,
George Gastaldi <
>> >>>>>> ggastald(a)redhat.com
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback
ivan.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you testing against the
latest snapshot?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> George
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 08/01/2014, às 11:10,
"Ivan St. Ivanov" <
>> >>>>>> ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As I promised, here is a
[intended-to-be] short feedback
>> about
>> >>>>>> the new
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Forge 2 shell. As some of
you know, I use Windows (Really?
>> >>>>>> OK...). So
>> >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will be very happy to help
you solve the issues besides
>> merely
>> >>>>>>>>> reporting
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * The history doesn't
work. That is, when you press up and
>> down
>> >>>>>> arrows
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of the previous
commands, you get this: αH
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Backspace doesn't
work. When I press it, the cursor just
>> comes
>> >>>>>> back
>> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the previous position
without deleting the character there.
>> If I
>> >>>>>> just
>> >>>>>>>>> write
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> something there, the old
symbol is overwritten by the new
>> one,
>> >>>>>> but at
>> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> end after pressing enter it
looks like you never entered
>> anything
>> >>>>>>>>> after
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing backspace. For
example:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) I write *new-project
--namek*
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) I notice the typo and
press backspace
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) k doesn't get
deleted, but I overwrite it with d
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Then I complete my
command to look like this:
>> *new-project
>> >>>>>>>>> --named
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> test*
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) Forge's output is:
*Project name must be specified.*
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * As you know on windows the
full path to a file or
>> directory is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
<drive-letter>:\<dir1>\<dir2>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) If I try to do *cd
c:\temp\forge*, Forge blows with
>> >>>>>> exception:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
org.jboss.forge.addon.resource.ResourceException:
>> >>>>>> [FileResourceImpl]
>> >>>>>>>>> can
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have no
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> children
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> org.jboss.forge.addon.resource.AbstractFileResource.getChild(Abstract
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FileResource.java:78)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> org.jboss.forge.addon.shell.util.PathspecParser.resolve(PathspecParse
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> r.java:232)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> org.jboss.forge.addon.shell.commands.CdCommand.execute(CdCommand.java
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> :71)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
>> >>>>>> Method)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> java:57)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAcces
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sorImpl.java:43)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Somehow I noticed that I
may use the paths without the
>> drive
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> letter, e.g. just
\<dir1>\<dir2>. It is legal to do it in
>> >>>>>> Windows,
>> >>>>>>>>> but thus
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you can't change to a
directory located on a different
>> drive. For
>> >>>>>>>>> example
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cd \temp\forge will change
to c:\temp\forge if you are
>> currently
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>>> c:. So
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried *cd \temp\forge*,
but the result was the same
>> >>>>>> [exception].
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) If I am in the root
directory (c:\) and I run *cd
>> >>>>>> temp\forge*, I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't get exception, but
****ERROR*** tempforge\: No such
>> file or
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> directory*. The interesting
thing is that I ran that
>> command by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing tab, i.e. counting
on the command completion of the
>> >>>>>> shell,
>> >>>>>>>>> which
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously works fine.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I made the cd command work
by just running *cd /temp/forge*
>> >>>>>> (notice
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the forward slashes)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you wish, I may add these
observations as JIRA items,
>> >>>>>> probably as
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> children to this one:
>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1387
>> >>>>>> .
>> >>>>>>>>> Bear
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> in mind that all the
reported features work in Forge 1 even
>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> Windows ;)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We can discuss these in
today's meeting.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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