I prefer the idea that there's a class that manages one instance and that's all it
does, and another object (or objects) to handle collections of those objects. I think
separating them out makes for better reusability. If we'd like to have a save method
I'm okay with that, but don't really see the need.
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 7:32, José Rodolfo Freitas <joserodolfo.freitas(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Sorry for not being able to post my gist. After writting some
"sketches", I realized that I don't have it very clear in my mind yet.
just to move from zero I posted something:
https://gist.github.com/1245041
It's a really simple example on how we could avoid inheritance, but it's not
contemplating a lot of needed features,
so I'm not even near to be convinced with that gist.
btw, the @AutoHome approach seems very nice.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Exactly. flush() has a specific purpose and really doesn't belong in boilerplate
code.
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On Sep 22, 2011 11:19 AM, "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> just one comment:
>
> Calling .flush() on every alteration really should not be promoted as a good
practice.
>
> /max
>
> On Sep 22, 2011, at 24:22, Dan Allen wrote:
>
>> Here's some additional feedback I received from a community member a while
back...to merge it into this thread.
>>
>> (begin feedback)
>>
>> ...from being burned from 3 seam based customers with apps and maintenance. The
"Home" or any other name should be just be put into a grave and slowly cast away
to sea ;). It is too heavy and complicated and just about anything inherited (extends)
truly causes heartache[Favor Composition over inheritance: Effective Java]. The current
seam home has a few super classes above the home and when you try to unit test it (the
standard definition of unit-testing including isolation) you get the "No Active
Application Context Found (if I remember it right). That happens because it is tightly
coupled with the application. But not to be hard on Home, I do realize the history of the
home object and know it was developed when EL had no parameters. So I have learned a lot
since then and I here are some things that I can impart to Seam 3.
>>
>> 1. My "Home" now is a "ServiceBean", and I have one for each
"Major" entity, see below. I have really stewed over this over months and
months, and the "Home" of "ServiceBean" should be kept small, focused,
reusable, tested and untouched. It's only task is to update, persist, possibly remove,
or some other functions that are required. In my example below I have custom close action.
Notice also that although these beans are stateful that doesn't mean everything should
be, so in these methods I have the parameter of what is being needed to be updated, and
not a field. In other words I don't have @In private Job job, I opted for public
boolean update(job). Mostly because, again, I want to make this service bean reusable so
whether I have a #{newJob}, #{copyOfAJob}, or #{managedJob} or whatever component of job I
need to work on I only need one jobServiceBean to cater to all my jobs, in whatever
conversation I am using. I also fire events from here if I need to do that. !
> After this is tested, and what I need I usually don't touch it anymore. If I
need to enhance I either use a decorator pattern around it, or enhance it in an @Observer.
I'll email about that later.
>>
>> @Name("jobServiceBean")
>> @Scope(ScopeType.CONVERSATION)
>> public class JobServiceBean implements JobService {
>> private EntityManager entityManager;
>> private StatusMessages statusMessages;
>>
>> @In
>> public void setEntityManager(EntityManager entityManager) {
>> this.entityManager = entityManager;
>> }
>>
>> @In
>> public void setStatusMessages(StatusMessages statusMessages) {
>> this.statusMessages = statusMessages;
>> }
>>
>> public boolean update(Job job) {
>> this.entityManager.flush();
>> this.statusMessages.add(StatusMessage.Severity.INFO, "Successfully updated
job {0}", job.getName());
>> return true;
>> }
>>
>> public boolean close(Job job) {
>> job.setJobStatus(JobStatus.CLOSED);
>> this.entityManager.flush();
>> this.statusMessages.add(StatusMessage.Severity.INFO, "Successfully closed
job {0}", job.getName());
>> return true;
>> }
>> }
>>
>> 2. One thing you may have noticed from above that there is no 'instance'
field with corresponding getters or setters like the old 'Home'. So the
ServiceBean in my case is not a full crud, but CUD + your own business methods. That's
because that too should be decoupled because we never know the source of the object is. Is
the object created from a factory? from a copy? is it a mapped component, a managed
component? Creation of objects or loading of objects, or the manufacturing of objects from
factories should be separate from the "home" or in my case the
"ServiceBean".
>>
>> (end feedback)
>>
>> --
>> Dan Allen
>> Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
>> Registered Linux User #231597
>>
>>
http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen#about
>>
http://mojavelinux.com
>>
http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
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