Re: [keycloak-user] Log out server sessions when using bearer authentication

The other way around – to _*mainly*_ use stateless REST services. With client-controlled tokens. The fact that single-sign-out wont affect the client until token renewal is attempted is OK. And in most cases we’ll even eagerly detect that, using a simple a cookie-logic. But the problem is if/when some REST call creates a session. Then that session won’t be invalidated, even if the user (or another user) logs into Keycloak again. We need to address that somehow. As I see it, we either need to: 1) Prevent session creation. Easy said, but we don’t control all code, and it’s fairly easy for one programmer to accidentally e.g. inject a session-scoped WELD bean in code reachable from a REST service. If going for this route, we’d at least need mechanisms for detecting if a session was after all created, and notify developers plus maybe auto-destroy it. Or wrap the request so that sessions aren’t created (with uncertain consequences). Since parts of the webapps + shared libraries might be used statefully, it gets a bit messy. 2) Connect all sessions to the single-sign-out controller (Keycloak). I evaluated 2) to be the cleaner approach, but wanted to know if Keycloak has some built-in solution. ~Dan *Fra:* Stian Thorgersen [mailto:sthorger@redhat.com] *Sendt:* tirsdag 3. januar 2017 08.52 *Til:* Dan Østerberg <dan(a)ren.no&gt; *Kopi:* keycloak-user(a)lists.jboss.org *Emne:* Re: [keycloak-user] Log out server sessions when using bearer authentication Not really following what you are saying. Are you saying you want your REST services to be stateful and use cookie based security rather than tokens? Or the other way around? On 3 January 2017 at 08:40, Dan Østerberg <dan(a)ren.no&gt; wrote: Thanx for the reply. But wouldn’t that be a bit against the whole point with token based authentication? We’ve used Jasig CAS before, and thereby used internal server-only authentication + server session. That’s very similar to Keycloak used the way you describe – and limiting in several ways. If that was the only option, we would have stayed with CAS. Being stateless & having more control in the client is certainly beneficial in a client-heavy REST-based application, where the client accesses multiple webapps (within the same realm). I guess we’ll just have to implement some in-house solution then... ~Dan *Fra:* Stian Thorgersen [mailto:sthorger@redhat.com] *Sendt:* mandag 2. januar 2017 15.16 *Til:* Dan Østerberg <dan(a)ren.no&gt; *Kopi:* keycloak-user(a)lists.jboss.org *Emne:* Re: [keycloak-user] Log out server sessions when using bearer authentication There's no standard way of doing backchannel logout with OAuth2. There's a draft spec for OpenID Connect that we may implement in the future. Keycloak has it's own proprietary backchannel logout, but that's only for applications that do the login. In your case as it's a JS app that obtains the tokens there's no backchannel logout involved and instead it relies on the session cookie + access token timeout. Assuming your JEE app is a rest service it should create a session that allows invoking without a access token from the JS app. That way it won't be possible for the JS app to invoke it once the session is logged out as it won't be able to obtain new access tokens. On 29 December 2016 at 11:27, Dan Østerberg <dan(a)ren.no&gt; wrote: Hi, How can we make single sign out work when passing bearer tokens to a server guarded by a «traditional» session based Oauth2 client / adapter? Lets say we use bearer authentication via the Javascript adapter, and make REST requests to a stateless (no session) server. Lets further say that during some later request, a server session will be created – either intentionally to store state, or unintentionally e.g. by some shared code (since sessions are auto-created in Java EE). Now single sign out won’t work, because Keycloak is neither aware of the server session nor the Oauth2 client that has an admin URL. One solution could be to detect the creation of a session, and internally via an extended REST API tell the Keycloak server to create a session also for the client with admin URL (connecting it to the created session ID). But it just sounds as if this should be covered out-of-the-box, so maybe I’m just missing or misunderstanding something... ~Dan _______________________________________________ keycloak-user mailing list keycloak-user(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/keycloak-user