Re: [forge-dev] Data access logic used by scaffold code

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:27, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp(a)gmail.com <mailto:lightguard.jp@gmail.com>> wrote: Hey Dan, you're about an hour late to the party :) we've been discussing and Eichard has given me some info and code to look at and read through. Cool. I just wanted to make sure I made the discussion public. As for the non dep idea, I can certainly understand where Lincoln and Pete are coming from. I do wonder though if that would preclude us from creating a CDI extension for rolling our own simple CRUD framework perhaps with an spi for future expansion. That be a bit much though. At any rate I need to go through the stuff Richard has sent me and give some feedback. First, I want to acknowledge that Richard is working with requirements that specify no deps. Being reminded of that, the design in the scaffolding makes sense. So I don't mean to question your choice in working within that requirement. My personal viewpoint, which I recognize may have no relevance, is that this is an extreme requirement. So I'm challenging the requirement, not the implementation :) I think the goal to make a pure Java EE application is absurd. If anything, it reveals the shortcomings and verbosity in Java EE 6 more than it shows how great it is. I get that we don't want to inflate the project with libraries, but to say that you can't have a single JAR file extra from Java EE, well, I just don't buy it. I *suppose* we can have multiple providers. Either way, as Richard said, Java EE 6 needs a decent CRUD and Query framework and whether it goes into the default Forge scaffolding or not, 99% of developers are going to want to use it if it's available. -Dan -- Dan Allen Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction _______________________________________________ forge-dev mailing list forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev