Yeah it never starts up.
To be absolutely clear:
1. It does not crash or die. There is no stack trace or return to the command prompt.
2. It runs in the sense that you get a flashing cursor that just sits there. But it does
not display the 'Forge' ASCII art or anything
3. It is evidently waiting on input, because if you hit return the cursor moves down a
line. But only once. Pressing return a second time does nothing
On 7/12/2011 3:31 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
I think they mean that it never starts up, which is very strange to
me.
Happy holiday! I haven't actually heard of that one before (ignorant me.) But have
fun :)
I do want to work on the startup time, but this "never starting" behavior is
very strange and I can't reproduce it on windows 7.
Hopefully Koen will be able to. (Unless you have access to a windows 95 box?)
~Lincoln
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Ivan St. Ivanov <ivan.st.ivanov(a)gmail.com
<mailto:ivan.st.ivanov@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Lincoln, folks!
Sure I will help. However, I wonder a couple of things:
1) What do you mean by hanging? Yes, Forge takes some 5-10 seconds to start, but it
finally starts. So do you aim at ~2 seconds start or maybe at
Koen's and Richard's computers it never starts at all
2) When I start the debug session, should I put somewhere breakpoints? If yes,
where?
Cheers,
Ivan
P.S. Sorry, but I'll do that tomorrow! Today is St. Nicolas's day here in
Bulgaria (and I believe in the whole Christian world) and right now I am
celebrating with a friend of mine his name's day ;-)
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com
<mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>> wrote:
Awesome, thanks koen.
Ivan,
Could I ask you a favor? Could you follow the debugging instructions in FORGE-400
(comments) and try to find our where Forge is hanging at
runtime? This would help me a *lot* since I cannot get access to an XP machine
right now.
~Lincoln
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:44 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have created
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-400.
Cheers,
Koen
Op 6-dec.-2011, om 09:20 heeft Richard Kennard het volgende geschreven:
>> on Windows 7: run hangs right after startup
>
> Yes, I can confirm this.
>
> Richard.
>
> On 6/12/2011 6:16 PM, Koen Aers wrote:
>> This is very strange. I didn't go into the details but while
running the tests on XP I had to use the "line.separator" property because
the output in the
>> test contained "\r\n" and not "\n".
>> I'm confused now…
>>
>> Btw, I don't know what's happening but I can's seem to
build trunk on any other platform than OSX.
>>
>> - on XP: build as well as run hang
>> - on Windows 7: build fails with compilation error, run hangs right
after startup
>> - on Fedora 16: build fails with (another) compilation error, run is
ok
>>
>> I tried the runs with a snapshot build that I did on OSX. I'll
create a JIRA issue to track these problems.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Koen
>>
>> Op 5-dec.-2011, om 22:24 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het volgende
geschreven:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Richard, thanks a lot for the hint! After downloading the latest
version my source compiles.
>>>
>>> However, now I get an error in the test:
JavaClassTest::testFormattingIsNotChanged. The problem is in the asserts that check
whether the
output contains
>>> Telephone + line.separator + {. The next assert, which also has
the line.separator inside, fails too. I am running on Windows. And there
line.separator
>>> is \r\n. However, in the output we get just \n. Which is fine on
Mac or UNIX.
>>>
>>> If I change the asserts like this (replace line.separator with
\n):
>>>
>>> assertTrue(output.contains(
>>> "Telephone\n{"));
>>> assertTrue(output.contains(
>>> ")\n {"));
>>>
>>> ...it works on Windows.
>>>
>>> Of course it's better to fix this in the code, but I saw
that the toString method uses the stuff from Eclipse
(org.eclipse.jface.text.Document,
>>> org.eclipse.text.edits.TextEdit,
org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.CompilationUnit). So I'm not sure whether we can do anything
there. Unless some
of you has
>>> commit permissions in Eclipse or my observations are wrong :-)
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> P.S. If I change the test like above (with \n instead of
line.separator), the maven build is successful
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Richard Kennard
<richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ivan,
>>>
>>> Apologies. Forge is currently building against a Metawidget
snapshot, and that snapshot is still changing. You will need to pull the
latest Forge
>>> build in
>>> order to get the changes (HtmlTableLayout has become
HtmlPanelGridLayout).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>>
>>> On 5/12/2011 1:58 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
>>>> Hi guys!
>>>>
>>>> I did not pull or merge anything since my last successful
build (or at least I think so). And now I have a compilation problem:
>>>>
>>>> [ERROR]
\projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[87,60]
>>>> cannot find symbol
>>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout
>>>> location: package
org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout
>>>>
>>>> [ERROR]
\projects\seamforge\core\scaffold-faces\src\main\java\org\jboss\forge\scaffold\faces\FacesScaffold.java:[354,48]
>>>> cannot find symbol
>>>> symbol : class HtmlTableLayout
>>>> location: class
org.jboss.forge.scaffold.faces.FacesScaffold
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The HtmlTableLayout class is in the
org.metawidget.statically.faces.component.html.layout package coming from the
>>> org.metawidget.modules/metawidget-all
>>>> dependency (version 1.35-SNAPSHOT). There is really no such
class in the metawidget library. I went on to check the jboss maven
repository. The class
>>>> HTMLTableLayout Indeed existed in older versions of the jar.
However, it's not there in latest ones (those after 1st December).
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody else have the same problem?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ivan
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Koen Aers
<koen.aers(a)gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> After fixing the failing test on XP, another problem shows
up…
>>>>
>>>> The test 'ValidationFacetTest' in
'forge-javaee-impl' hangs while initializing the fixture.
>>>>
>>>> More in detail, the call 'beanManager.fireEvent(new
Startup())' in the 'beforeTest()' method of the class
'SingletonAbstractShellTest.java' never
>>>> returns.
>>>>
>>>> I have no clue as to what might be the cause of this. Any
suggestions welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Koen
>>>>
>>>> Op 1-dec.-2011, om 09:15 heeft Ivan St. Ivanov het volgende
geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I does hang for ~5 seconds. Not sure if that is
problematic. But Beta 3 has the same behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once it is started I don't see any delays (created
new project, setup persistence, added an entity and a field).
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>> Ivan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Richard Kennard
<richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>
>>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> But does it run okay? For me, it kept hanging at the
command prompt after I typed 'bin/forge'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/12/2011 10:08 AM, Ivan St. Ivanov wrote:
>>>>>> Maven build is successful on Windows 7 :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Keith Babo
<kbabo(a)redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>>>
>>> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>>
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com> <mailto:kbabo@redhat.com
<mailto:kbabo@redhat.com>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You could always spin up a job on the JBoss Jenkins
server to build this on Windows for you ….
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Koen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could I ask you to look in to this? I am not at
a place where I have access to windows, and I don't see that error on OSX.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>> ~Lincoln
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Koen Aers
<koen.aers(a)gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>>
>>>>> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com> <mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com
<mailto:koen.aers@gmail.com>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was able to build, test and run without issues
on OSX. On Windows (XP) the build stopped after the following failing test. I didn't
>>>>>>> investigate any further.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Koen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Test set:
org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest
>>>>>>>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Tests run: 25, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped:
0, Time elapsed: 0.078 sec <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>>>
testFormattingIsNotChanged(org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest) Time elapsed:
0.015 sec <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>>> java.lang.AssertionError:
>>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.fail(Assert.java:91)
>>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:43)
>>>>>>> at org.junit.Assert.assertTrue(Assert.java:54)
>>>>>>> at
org.jboss.forge.test.parser.java.JavaClassTest.testFormattingIsNotChanged(JavaClassTest.java:77)
>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>> at
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod$1.runReflectiveCall(FrameworkMethod.java:44)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.internal.runners.model.ReflectiveCallable.run(ReflectiveCallable.java:15)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.model.FrameworkMethod.invokeExplosively(FrameworkMethod.java:41)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.internal.runners.statements.InvokeMethod.evaluate(InvokeMethod.java:20)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.internal.runners.statements.RunBefores.evaluate(RunBefores.java:28)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:76)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.runChild(BlockJUnit4ClassRunner.java:50)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$3.run(ParentRunner.java:193)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$1.schedule(ParentRunner.java:52)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.runChildren(ParentRunner.java:191)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.access$000(ParentRunner.java:42)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.ParentRunner$2.evaluate(ParentRunner.java:184)
>>>>>>> at
org.junit.runners.ParentRunner.run(ParentRunner.java:236)
>>>>>>> at
org.apache.maven.surefire.junit4.JUnit4TestSet.execute(JUnit4TestSet.java:59)
>>>>>>> at
org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:115)
>>>>>>> at
org.apache.maven.surefire.suite.AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:102)
>>>>>>> at
org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java:180)
>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>>>>>>> at
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>> at
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>>> at
org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java:350)
>>>>>>> at
org.apache.maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java:1021)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Richard
Kennard <richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>
>>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>>
>>>>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>
>>> <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com
<mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lincoln,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The build seems to run, and there are no
lingering test failures, but on Windows the distribution fails to start up? It just hangs
at the
>>>>>>> command prompt,
>>>>>>> without printing 'Forge' in ASCII text
or anything. It appears to be waiting for keyboard input, as if I press ENTER the cursor
moves
down
>>>>>>> once, but then
>>>>>>> it too stops.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have grown so used to Forge telling me I'm
an idiot for running Windows, but now it won't even do that :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/11/2011 9:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen
wrote:
>>>>>>>> What was the problem in the end ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My guess was a memory leak in forge or the
testsuite - did I win ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 29, 2011, at 22:16, Lincoln Baxter,
III wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please feel free to run the full build
on any operating system, without the aggravation of lingering test failures!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III
>>>>>>>>>
http://ocpsoft.com
<
http://ocpsoft.com/> <
http://ocpsoft.com/> <
http://ocpsoft.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
http://scrumshark.com
<
http://scrumshark.com/> <
http://scrumshark.com/>
<
http://scrumshark.com/>
>>>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple"
>>>>>>>>>
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<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
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<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>
>>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>>
http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>>
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<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>
>>> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org
<mailto:forge-dev@lists.jboss.org>>>>
>>>>>>>
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Lincoln Baxter, III
>>>>>>>
http://ocpsoft.com <
http://ocpsoft.com/>
<
http://ocpsoft.com/> <
http://ocpsoft.com/>
>>>>>>>
http://scrumshark.com
<
http://scrumshark.com/> <
http://scrumshark.com/>
<
http://scrumshark.com/>
>>>>>>> "Keep it Simple"
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