When you think of what Forge could achieve, you have to think big. Right now, many of the Forge plugins are focused on seeding and incrementally enhancing a project, which is definitely a gap that needed filling. As those plugins mature, or contributors get interested in getting Forge to do new tricks, you should think about what tasks you think are hard, and then try to encapsulate those tasks into a set of commands. That's essentially what juju does, the devops tooling that Ubuntu just launched. Check it out the keynote for some inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2LGmY796wQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player Perhaps Forge could handle tasks such as those demonstrated one day. Perhaps Forge can use juju. Who knows. -Dan -- Dan Allen Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction