Hi guys, This mail is a summary of the mail thread about STP modeler. Based eclipse Ganymede-SR1, we can install STP modeler by update site. The STP modeler now has two version: 1.0.1 for Ganymede SR1 and 2.0.0M3 from committer build. (http://download.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/) There are some differences between 1.0.1 and 2.0.0M3. One of these differences bring about the issue JBIDE3364. The difference is about sequence edges in a sample *.bpmn file: In 1.0.1 version <sequenceEdges xmi:type="bpmn:SequenceEdge" xmi:id="_UAo2UcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" iD="_UAo2UMTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" source="_R362UcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" target="_Tny4gcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg"/> In 2.0.0M3 version <sequenceEdges xmi:type="bpmn:SequenceEdge" xmi:id="_UAo2UcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" iD="_UAo2UMTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg"/> In 2.0.0M3 version, the sequenceEdges node has not source and target attributes. So the issue JBIDE3364 occurs. So I want to know if we should support 2.0.0M3 in jboss tools 3.0? or support 2.0.0M3 in jboss tools later vertion? Grid > Grid, > > Not sure what you mean when you say based on Ganymeade. All of the > testing I have been doing is based on Ganymede: > > eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk. > > Which different version of STP are you using? > Aha, yes. I download the Ganymede-sr1 again. It does not include STP modeler. Maybe my ganymede is not clear base. So I test again on Ganymede-sr1 and update to 1.0(Ganymede) and to 1.0.1(Ganymede SR1). The JBIDE-3364 does not occur. Only when update to stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3. The JBIDE-3364 occurs. For this, should I support stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3? (it is a committer build) <http://download.eclipse.org/stp/updates/releases/1.0.1.200809261307/site.... > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "grid.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 10:24:16 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain > Subject: Re: Which version should I support? (Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: > How to use JBPm Converter) > > > >>> http://download.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/ >>> > > From this link page, the Ganymede is stable. > stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip is committer build. > > >> O, my god! >> Jeff, you are right. Based on your stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip, I >> get the issue. >> But based on Ganymede, this issue does not occur. >> The stp modeler is too distable! >> >> Which version should I support? or both? >> Any suggestion are appreciated. >> >> Grid >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:45:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Grid, >>>> >>>> As I stated below, I am using the SOA Tools BPMN Editor. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Now I have installed: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk >>>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk >>>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip >>>>>>> >>>> It is true that my models were generated from PI4SOA CDL models. >>>> However I created a very simple model directly in SOA Tools BPMN >>>> Modeler and I experience the same issue when trying to convert it >>>> to JPDL (attached those files). Also, not sure what you mean by >>>> "sequenceflow". I don't see sequenceflow in any .bpmn or >>>> .bpmn_diagram. >>>> >>> O, "sequenceflow" is a name from bpmn specification. In *.bpmn, it >>> 's name is "sequenceEdges". In stp bpmn editor, it's name is Flow >>> Connector. >>> I am running stp bpmn editor by debugging stp bpmn editor sources. >>> So maybe some differences? >>> Where do you get the stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip? Please give me a >>> link.Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> To: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt;, >>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:14:43 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>> Mountain >>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>> >>>> Hi Jeff, >>>> I have known the reason of the issue JBIDE-3364. >>>> I think your bpmn files are not from STP BPMN EDITOR? >>>> STP bpmn editor bpmn file: *.bpmn, it's sequenceflow has a attribute: >>>> source. The source is the sequenceflow's source node. But your bpmn >>>> files has not this attribute. So this issue occurs. >>>> >>>> John, >>>> We need to support these files from other editor? >>>> If yes, I need to do some works for it. >>>> If not, I have a workaround: >>>> Open the bpmn file using stp bpmn editor, do some changes >>>> (not real changes, only aim to call stp editor's save method) >>>> Then save the file. At this time, the stp editor add the source >>>> attribute >>>> to the sequenceflow automatically, you may use the bpmn export >>>> correctly >>>> >>>> Grid >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. >>>>>> When I >>>>>> uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should this be >>>>>> described in another JIRA issue >>>>>> >>>>> Yes, please. >>>>> >>>>> -- John >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 14:22 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jon, >>>>>> >>>>>> I attached the files. Grid did not report the file worked >>>>>> correctly for him, he just reported that the zip file from the >>>>>> download site that I sent him installed correctly in his >>>>>> environment. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. >>>>>> When I uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should >>>>>> this be described in another JIRA issue? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:09:45 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>> Mountain >>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've created: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE-3364 >>>>>> >>>>>> to track this. Can you please attach the BPMN file in question to >>>>>> that >>>>>> JIRA, so Grid can look into it (not sure if this is the same file as >>>>>> originally discussed on this thread, since Grid reported that file >>>>>> worked correctly for him.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Grid: Please take a look into this. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- John >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:26 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now I have installed: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk >>>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk >>>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The BPMN Converter is installed, and I see it when I use Export >>>>>>> from the Context Menu. However when I get to the step in the >>>>>>> wizard that has me select the pool, I select the only pool in my >>>>>>> BPMN diagram (I had hand removed the other pools prior to start >>>>>>> with a simple example), and it hangs when I select next, and I >>>>>>> have to cancel. My BPMN model was generated from the pi4soa CDL >>>>>>> tool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:20:54 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jeff, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suspect that Grid created this zip from his own environment, >>>>>>> since I'm >>>>>>> not aware of any regularly produced zips in this area. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The requirement you mention about using SOA-P tooling only from >>>>>>> JBT has >>>>>>> been the subject of debate before, with one serious limiting factor >>>>>>> being the JBT build. As Nick B moves the JBT to a modular >>>>>>> system, then I >>>>>>> think these sorts of subsets become possible. Ultimately, it >>>>>>> would be >>>>>>> Max's call. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 12:15 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jon, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A lot of times we don't want the entire JBoss Tools, but just >>>>>>>> the plugins that we intend to use. In particular doing soa >>>>>>>> development work I have no interest in or use for seam, rich >>>>>>>> faces, jbossas tooling. So until there is a version of JBoss >>>>>>>> Tools targeted at the SOA developer, I would prefer to add the >>>>>>>> plugins I require. Grid mentioned a common zip, but the one he >>>>>>>> passed me was old. I don't see a tools common zip on the >>>>>>>> download page. How would I find this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> To: "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt;, >>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 8:59:26 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the surface (just scanning the thread below): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeff: Having the plug-in and feature in the right directories >>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>> first step, but that does not necessarily mean that the Eclipse >>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>> will load them (dependencies could be missing). If you don't see a >>>>>>>> "BPMN" category under Export, then it is likely due to missing >>>>>>>> dependencies. I would suggest the latest Eclipse Gaynmede J2EE >>>>>>>> package >>>>>>>> and latest JBT CR1 build to ensure everything is in place. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:27 +0800, feng.qian wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have tested your zip file. No problems. >>>>>>>>> Please go to the eclipse menu Help->About Eclipse >>>>>>>>> Platform->Plug-in Details and see >>>>>>>>> if the plugin is correctly installed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Grid >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Grid, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Downloaded from: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have verified that both the feature and the plugin are in >>>>>>>>>> the appropriate directory: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have attached the zip file. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 9:39:16 PM GMT -07:00 >>>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Grid, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is not working for me. I do not see the BPMN Folder. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I unzipped jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip into >>>>>>>>>>> eclipse folder. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> FYI I have installed: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> pi4soa2.0.0.CR4-eclipse3.4-linux.tar.gz >>>>>>>>>>> jbpm 3.1.5 via the local update site >>>>>>>>>>> (jbpm-jpdl-designer-site-3.1.5.zip) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip? >>>>>>>>>> Where do you get it? I have never seen this zip. But I think >>>>>>>>>> it maybe: >>>>>>>>>> The zip should include a feature named >>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert.feature and a plugin named >>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert. >>>>>>>>>> You should put the plugin into eclipse/plugins and the >>>>>>>>>> feature into eclipse/features. >>>>>>>>>> If not working, please send the zip to me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> eclipse stp bpmn modeler from local update site >>>>>>>>>>> (stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is my "process designer" workbench :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:54:33 PM GMT -07:00 >>>>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey, >>>>>>>>>>> This is my carelessness. I forgot to tell you the changes >>>>>>>>>>> about jbpm convert. As John's suggestion, I removed the >>>>>>>>>>> popup menu of jbpm convert and added a export wizard. >>>>>>>>>>> You may: >>>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose a *.bpmn file ,and right click on it. >>>>>>>>>>> 2. The popup menu is opened. >>>>>>>>>>> 3. You click on Export... action. >>>>>>>>>>> 4. A wizard for export open. >>>>>>>>>>> 5. In this wizard, there is a folder named BPMN Export, >>>>>>>>>>> click it to expand it and click BPMN -> JPDL menu. >>>>>>>>>>> 6. A wizard for jbpm converter open. >>>>>>>>>>> This wizard looks like that before. I think you are able to >>>>>>>>>>> use it. >>>>>>>>>>> Any questions, please let me know. >>>>>>>>>>> (Before you use jbpm convert, you must have two file in a >>>>>>>>>>> folder: *.bpmn and *.bpmn_diagram) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>> Grid >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Grid, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I installed the JBPM Converter into my Eclipse 3.4 >>>>>>>>>>>> installation (Linux). Next time I started it Eclipse it >>>>>>>>>>>> came up shrunken in the top left corner of my display. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a BPMN diagram (that I generated from a PI4SOA cdm >>>>>>>>>>>> file) and want to try to convert it to jBPM. Not sure what >>>>>>>>>>>> is the right way to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbosstools-dev mailing list >> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >> > >

> So, 1.0.1 is the current release, and 2.0.0M3 is a milestone (for > Galileo, probably)? > > If so, then we need to support 1.0.1 in JBT 3.0 and look at supporting > both in a later release where 2.0.0M3 is released too. > > Are either of the formats used by 2.0.0M3 and 1.0.1 more > "standard"/correct in the BPMN world? > > -- John > In the bpmn specification, a sequence flow should include the source and target attributes. In *.bpmn file, if a sequence flow has these two attributes, user can visually get the information about a sequenceflow's source node and target node. In my last product about bpmn editor, these two attributes were included in sequence flow. But I do not know which method is more standard. I think maybe STP bpmn modeler consider the redundance of these attributes. Because a task node: <vertices xmi:type="bpmn:Activity" xmi:id="_69D2YcToEd22teFP9tln4A" iD="_69D2YMToEd22teFP9tln4A" outgoingEdges="_9Uzw4cToEd22teFP9tln4A" name="Task" activityType="Task"/> <vertices xmi:type="bpmn:Activity" xmi:id="_89mKwcToEd22teFP9tln4A" iD="_89mKwMToEd22teFP9tln4A" incomingEdges="_9Uzw4cToEd22teFP9tln4A"/> a sequence flow: <sequenceEdges xmi:type="bpmn:SequenceEdge" xmi:id="_9Uzw4cToEd22teFP9tln4A" iD="_9Uzw4MToEd22teFP9tln4A" source="_69D2YcToEd22teFP9tln4A" target="_89mKwcToEd22teFP9tln4A"/> We can get the source and target information from vertices's outgoingEdges and incommingEdges. So STP bpmn modeler remove these two attribute in 2.0.0M3 version. But in STP bpmn modeler emf model, a sequence flow has these two attributes and can call getSource() method to get source node. This is a advantage of using emf model to do the convertion. But now we use DOM model to do the convertion, we have to handle this issue. However I have post a message in stp bpmn newsgroup for this quesion, let us wait the answer. Grid > On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 15:56 +0800, grid.qian wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> This mail is a summary of the mail thread about STP modeler. >> Based eclipse Ganymede-SR1, we can install STP modeler by update site. >> The STP modeler now has two version: 1.0.1 for Ganymede SR1 and 2.0.0M3 >> from committer build. (http://download.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/) >> There are some differences between 1.0.1 and 2.0.0M3. One of these >> differences bring about the issue JBIDE3364. >> >> The difference is about sequence edges in a sample *.bpmn file: >> In 1.0.1 version >> <sequenceEdges xmi:type="bpmn:SequenceEdge" >> xmi:id="_UAo2UcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" iD="_UAo2UMTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" >> source="_R362UcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" target="_Tny4gcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg"/> >> In 2.0.0M3 version >> <sequenceEdges xmi:type="bpmn:SequenceEdge" >> xmi:id="_UAo2UcTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg" iD="_UAo2UMTuEd2TWonbw8O5Jg"/> >> >> In 2.0.0M3 version, the sequenceEdges node has not source and target >> attributes. So the issue JBIDE3364 occurs. >> >> So I want to know if we should support 2.0.0M3 in jboss tools 3.0? or >> support 2.0.0M3 in jboss tools later vertion? >> >> >> Grid >> >> >> >>> Grid, >>> >>> Not sure what you mean when you say based on Ganymeade. All of the >>> testing I have been doing is based on Ganymede: >>> >>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk. >>> >>> Which different version of STP are you using? >>> >>> >> Aha, yes. I download the Ganymede-sr1 again. It does not include STP >> modeler. Maybe my ganymede is not clear >> base. So I test again on Ganymede-sr1 and update to 1.0(Ganymede) and to >> 1.0.1(Ganymede SR1). The JBIDE-3364 does not >> occur. Only when update to stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3. The JBIDE-3364 >> occurs. >> >> For this, should I support stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3? (it is a committer >> build) >> >> >> <http://download.eclipse.org/stp/updates/releases/1.0.1.200809261307/site.... >> >> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 10:24:16 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >>> Subject: Re: Which version should I support? (Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: >>> How to use JBPm Converter) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/ >>>>> >>>>> >>> From this link page, the Ganymede is stable. >>> stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip is committer build. >>> >>> >>> >>>> O, my god! >>>> Jeff, you are right. Based on your stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip, I >>>> get the issue. >>>> But based on Ganymede, this issue does not occur. >>>> The stp modeler is too distable! >>>> >>>> Which version should I support? or both? >>>> Any suggestion are appreciated. >>>> >>>> Grid >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 9:45:06 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain >>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Grid, >>>>>> >>>>>> As I stated below, I am using the SOA Tools BPMN Editor. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I have installed: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk >>>>>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk >>>>>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> It is true that my models were generated from PI4SOA CDL models. >>>>>> However I created a very simple model directly in SOA Tools BPMN >>>>>> Modeler and I experience the same issue when trying to convert it >>>>>> to JPDL (attached those files). Also, not sure what you mean by >>>>>> "sequenceflow". I don't see sequenceflow in any .bpmn or >>>>>> .bpmn_diagram. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> O, "sequenceflow" is a name from bpmn specification. In *.bpmn, it >>>>> 's name is "sequenceEdges". In stp bpmn editor, it's name is Flow >>>>> Connector. >>>>> I am running stp bpmn editor by debugging stp bpmn editor sources. >>>>> So maybe some differences? >>>>> Where do you get the stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip? Please give me a >>>>> link.Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "grid.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> To: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt;, >>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2008 8:14:43 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>> Mountain >>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jeff, >>>>>> I have known the reason of the issue JBIDE-3364. >>>>>> I think your bpmn files are not from STP BPMN EDITOR? >>>>>> STP bpmn editor bpmn file: *.bpmn, it's sequenceflow has a attribute: >>>>>> source. The source is the sequenceflow's source node. But your bpmn >>>>>> files has not this attribute. So this issue occurs. >>>>>> >>>>>> John, >>>>>> We need to support these files from other editor? >>>>>> If yes, I need to do some works for it. >>>>>> If not, I have a workaround: >>>>>> Open the bpmn file using stp bpmn editor, do some changes >>>>>> (not real changes, only aim to call stp editor's save method) >>>>>> Then save the file. At this time, the stp editor add the source >>>>>> attribute >>>>>> to the sequenceflow automatically, you may use the bpmn export >>>>>> correctly >>>>>> >>>>>> Grid >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. >>>>>>>> When I >>>>>>>> uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should this be >>>>>>>> described in another JIRA issue >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, please. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 14:22 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jon, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I attached the files. Grid did not report the file worked >>>>>>>> correctly for him, he just reported that the zip file from the >>>>>>>> download site that I sent him installed correctly in his >>>>>>>> environment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tried again with another BPMN model that had multiple pools. >>>>>>>> When I uncheck a pool in the wizard, it throws an NPE. Should >>>>>>>> this be described in another JIRA issue? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 12:09:45 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jeff, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've created: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE-3364 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to track this. Can you please attach the BPMN file in question to >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> JIRA, so Grid can look into it (not sure if this is the same file as >>>>>>>> originally discussed on this thread, since Grid reported that file >>>>>>>> worked correctly for him.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Grid: Please take a look into this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:26 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now I have installed: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR1-linux-gtk >>>>>>>>> JBossTools-3.0.0.CR1-N200812050815-ALL-linux-gtk >>>>>>>>> and the SOA Tools BPMN Modeler from stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The BPMN Converter is installed, and I see it when I use Export >>>>>>>>> from the Context Menu. However when I get to the step in the >>>>>>>>> wizard that has me select the pool, I select the only pool in my >>>>>>>>> BPMN diagram (I had hand removed the other pools prior to start >>>>>>>>> with a simple example), and it hangs when I select next, and I >>>>>>>>> have to cancel. My BPMN model was generated from the pi4soa CDL >>>>>>>>> tool. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 10:20:54 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jeff, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I suspect that Grid created this zip from his own environment, >>>>>>>>> since I'm >>>>>>>>> not aware of any regularly produced zips in this area. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The requirement you mention about using SOA-P tooling only from >>>>>>>>> JBT has >>>>>>>>> been the subject of debate before, with one serious limiting factor >>>>>>>>> being the JBT build. As Nick B moves the JBT to a modular >>>>>>>>> system, then I >>>>>>>>> think these sorts of subsets become possible. Ultimately, it >>>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>>> Max's call. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- John >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 12:15 -0500, Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jon, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A lot of times we don't want the entire JBoss Tools, but just >>>>>>>>>> the plugins that we intend to use. In particular doing soa >>>>>>>>>> development work I have no interest in or use for seam, rich >>>>>>>>>> faces, jbossas tooling. So until there is a version of JBoss >>>>>>>>>> Tools targeted at the SOA developer, I would prefer to add the >>>>>>>>>> plugins I require. Grid mentioned a common zip, but the one he >>>>>>>>>> passed me was old. I don't see a tools common zip on the >>>>>>>>>> download page. How would I find this? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "John Graham" <jgraham(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> To: "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt;, >>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 5, 2008 8:59:26 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada >>>>>>>>>> Mountain >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the surface (just scanning the thread below): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jeff: Having the plug-in and feature in the right directories >>>>>>>>>> is the >>>>>>>>>> first step, but that does not necessarily mean that the Eclipse >>>>>>>>>> platform >>>>>>>>>> will load them (dependencies could be missing). If you don't see a >>>>>>>>>> "BPMN" category under Export, then it is likely due to missing >>>>>>>>>> dependencies. I would suggest the latest Eclipse Gaynmede J2EE >>>>>>>>>> package >>>>>>>>>> and latest JBT CR1 build to ensure everything is in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- John >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-12-05 at 13:27 +0800, feng.qian wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have tested your zip file. No problems. >>>>>>>>>>> Please go to the eclipse menu Help->About Eclipse >>>>>>>>>>> Platform->Plug-in Details and see >>>>>>>>>>> if the plugin is correctly installed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Grid >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Grid, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Downloaded from: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have verified that both the feature and the plugin are in >>>>>>>>>>>> the appropriate directory: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have attached the zip file. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 9:39:16 PM GMT -07:00 >>>>>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey Delong wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Grid, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not working for me. I do not see the BPMN Folder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I unzipped jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip into >>>>>>>>>>>>> eclipse folder. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI I have installed: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pi4soa2.0.0.CR4-eclipse3.4-linux.tar.gz >>>>>>>>>>>>> jbpm 3.1.5 via the local update site >>>>>>>>>>>>> (jbpm-jpdl-designer-site-3.1.5.zip) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> jBPM-Convert-1.0.0.Beta1-R200810311334.zip? >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you get it? I have never seen this zip. But I think >>>>>>>>>>>> it maybe: >>>>>>>>>>>> The zip should include a feature named >>>>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert.feature and a plugin named >>>>>>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.jbpm.convert. >>>>>>>>>>>> You should put the plugin into eclipse/plugins and the >>>>>>>>>>>> feature into eclipse/features. >>>>>>>>>>>> If not working, please send the zip to me. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> eclipse stp bpmn modeler from local update site >>>>>>>>>>>>> (stp.archivedsite-2.0.0.M3.zip) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my "process designer" workbench :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "feng.qian" <fqian(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Jeffrey Delong" <jdelong(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:54:33 PM GMT -07:00 >>>>>>>>>>>>> US/Canada Mountain >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How to use JBPm Converter >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jeffrey, >>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my carelessness. I forgot to tell you the changes >>>>>>>>>>>>> about jbpm convert. As John's suggestion, I removed the >>>>>>>>>>>>> popup menu of jbpm convert and added a export wizard. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You may: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Choose a *.bpmn file ,and right click on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The popup menu is opened. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. You click on Export... action. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. A wizard for export open. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. In this wizard, there is a folder named BPMN Export, >>>>>>>>>>>>> click it to expand it and click BPMN -> JPDL menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. A wizard for jbpm converter open. >>>>>>>>>>>>> This wizard looks like that before. I think you are able to >>>>>>>>>>>>> use it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any questions, please let me know. >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Before you use jbpm convert, you must have two file in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> folder: *.bpmn and *.bpmn_diagram) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> Grid >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Grid, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I installed the JBPM Converter into my Eclipse 3.4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation (Linux). Next time I started it Eclipse it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> came up shrunken in the top left corner of my display. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a BPMN diagram (that I generated from a PI4SOA cdm >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file) and want to try to convert it to jBPM. Not sure what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the right way to do that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ jbosstools-dev mailing list jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev