I am not sure I am following you 100%.
For me a request is anything which comes into the context of the
application. No matter if it comes in via Servlet, WebSockets, JMS, Remote
EJB, etc...
The request scope should be propagated to all asynchronous operations
launched within that call, terminating it when all request associated
asynchronous operations are completed.
Knitti
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 at 16:48 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes (just making clear it is servlet related asynchronism - ie
AsyncContext#complete() is called and listeners are completed - to avoid
the ambiguity of @Async, JMS etc.. where request scope is now)
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2016-03-08 16:21 GMT+01:00 Stephan Knitelius <stephan(a)knitelius.com>:
>
>
> So the proposal would be to enable propagation of request scope to
> asynchronous threads and keep it alive until all concurrent processes
> referencing it are completed?
>
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 at 14:34 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> will try to not hijack this thread and create another one for thread
>> scope ;).
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>> 2016-03-08 14:30 GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman <reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>
>>> Your mention of thread local scope is interesting indeed. We had just
>>> such a scope in Resin called @ThreadScoped, completely separate from
>>> @RequestScoped. As memory serves though even in Resin we basically
>>> implemented @RequestScoped as thread local scope.
>>>
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2016-03-08 14:08 GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman <reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>
>>>> I never assume anything related to HTTP requests are ever thread safe.
>>>> I don't know many folks that would make that assumption either. I
think
>>>> this consideration is not a significant one. The spec, docs and
tutorials
>>>> out there are pretty clear about the fact that none of the CDI scopes
are
>>>> really thread safe in the way EJBs are.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It is one of the main usage of request scoped in practise. It doesn't
>>> come from HTTP side but since it is used this way in several other places
>>> (like batch) it is now assumed everywhere. It has even been promoted by
>>> several CDI projects so sadly it is to be taken into account now even if I
>>> agree it is not the state we should be at today. If changed - servlet
>>> 3.0/3.1 broke several things to make the spec cleaner or more explicit so I
>>> guess CDI can work on this - it should be made very explicit in the spec
>>> and we should study a "thread local scope" replacement to fill the
gap and
>>> propose a solution to this practise judged abusive.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rmannibucau(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In TomEE we restart/stop it around most of hooks including the
>>>> runnable passed to start(Runnable) of the AsyncContext but keeping the
now
>>>> widespread ThreadLocal nature of the @RequestScoped (= not the same as
the
>>>> startAsync() call sadly). This passes CDI TCK but for the particular
>>>> request scope I would be happy to clarify it is actually bound to the
>>>> request and just reuse the same instances. In term of side effects it
would
>>>> breaks the current thread safety users assume (with reason or not) but I
>>>> have no real clue if it would really breaks apps or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>>> 2016-03-08 13:33 GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman <reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Let's hope some of the implementors weigh in on this some time
soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could write some tests on this but I would have no idea if I would
>>>>> have uncovered a bug given the ambiguity of the current spec text.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 3:16 AM, arjan tijms
<arjan.tijms(a)gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 8:08 PM, Reza Rahman
<reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading over the CDI spec definition for request scoped beans, I
am
>>>>>> a tad confused. When are request scoped beans being destroyed
right now?
>>>>>> Are they just bound to the Servlet request thread and destroyed
as soon as
>>>>>> the service method returns?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In case of a Servlet request (request scoped beans are also tied to
>>>>> other kinds of "requests"), it's indeed not clear. In
practice it looks
>>>>> like the moment between the first
ServletRequestListener#requestInitialized
>>>>> and ServletRequestListener#requestDestroyed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The exact scope is troublesome for security too, since in most
severs
>>>>> the request scope (and session scope and application scope) is active
when
>>>>> a SAM is called (the SAM gets an HttpServletRequest after all), but
this is
>>>>> not the case in all servers. E.g. in Liberty the RequestScope starts
AFTER
>>>>> a SAM is called.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Arjan Tijms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In case of asynchronous Servlets, are they kept around until the
>>>>>> real HTTP request actually completes the same way the underlying
HTTP
>>>>>> connection is kept around? Or is that too difficult because it
would
>>>>>> require integration at a very low level with the Servlet
implementation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's some language around asynchronous completion right
now but
>>>>>> it's not very clear what actually happens. Does the
onComplete, etc
>>>>>> asynchronous callback basically create new request scoped
instances?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Mar 7, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Reza Rahman
<reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Even in the most conservative reading of this, the spec is
clearly
>>>>>> not disallowing it.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> On Mar 7, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Mark Struberg
<struberg(a)yahoo.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> The question is whether the spec does allow us to do it.
And if
>>>>>> other containers consequently do it as well.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> If it does then I will implement it in TomEE.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> LieGrue,
>>>>>> >> strub
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> Am 07.03.2016 um 14:06 schrieb Reza Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> What this is saying is that it is not recommended to
use them
>>>>>> because of the possible life-cycle mismatch. If they are not
supposed to
>>>>>> work at all, the specification would have simply stated it
won't work.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Anyway personally I have no reason to further
discuss this. I'm
>>>>>> going to try to find a way to get this done for developers sooner
rather
>>>>>> than later. If TomEE does not want to do it, too bad for
developers.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 3:49 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> "
>>>>>> >>>> Tasks that are submitted to a managed instance
of
>>>>>> ExecutorService may still be running after the lifecycle of the
submitting
>>>>>> component. Therefore, CDI beans with a scope of @RequestScoped,
>>>>>> @SessionScoped, or @ConversationScoped are not recommended to use
as tasks
>>>>>> as it cannot be guaranteed that the tasks will complete before
the CDI
>>>>>> context is destroyed.
>>>>>> >>>> "
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> States that the context is not inherited, is
that what you mean?
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> >>>> @rmannibucau | Blog | Github | LinkedIn |
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>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 2016-03-07 5:57 GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman
<reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>> The specification currently references pretty
much all the
>>>>>> major CDI scopes specifically with the issue of propagation and
lifecycle
>>>>>> in mind. Please see section 2.3.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Mark Struberg
<struberg(a)yahoo.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>> Specifically
>>>>>> >>>>> The containers mimic ejb for propagation for
a good reason!
>>>>>> >>>>> No session e.g. , new TX, etc
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Sadly the concurrency utilis only mention
@ApplicationScoped,
>>>>>> so the Request Context not only doesn't get propagated (which
is good), but
>>>>>> also doesn't get set up (which is crap).
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>> >>>>> Strub
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> Am 06.03.2016 um 23:03 schrieb John D.
Ament <
>>>>>> john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> I agree, in a sense, with what
you're saying. There's
>>>>>> nothing in this spec that says it wouldn't be propagated.
However, there's
>>>>>> nothing in this spec that states clearly that CDI contexts are
propagated.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> If you look at the RI, the RI only seems
to propagate
>>>>>> transaction state. Considering the age of the spec, I'm not
surprised to
>>>>>> see that. The worst part is that right now, outside of the ASF,
all other
>>>>>> EE7 impls seem to be using the RI for concurrency.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm fairly certain that from this
spec's standpoint, the only
>>>>>> thing that's actually propagated is the transaction.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> John
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 4:50 PM Reza
Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>> I am re-reading the spec end to end
again right now. So far
>>>>>> it seems I have remembered everything correctly.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> You should read over section 2.3. What
it is saying is that a
>>>>>> container implementing the Java EE concurrency utilities should
ensure
>>>>>> whatever contextual information is needed for managed components
to work
>>>>>> correctly should be propagated automatically. For the correct
>>>>>> implementation of CDI scopes, this should also mean any currently
active
>>>>>> scopes. The section you are referring to is basically implying
that
>>>>>> thinking that it is possible to use these scoped beans in tasks
(albeit not
>>>>>> reliably since beans could go out of scope before the thread
finishes - for
>>>>>> example if the request ends).
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> This does not have anything to do with
the context service
>>>>>> per se. The context service is an SPI of sorts to allow end user
developers
>>>>>> to do for their own applications what the container does behind
the scenes
>>>>>> for managed component context propagation.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>> I'll read over the entire spec to
see if there is anything to
>>>>>> contradict this. If that's not the case what Romain is
describing is most
>>>>>> likely an implementation specific bug that did not take into
account CDI
>>>>>> scope propagation.
>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 4:23 PM, John D.
Ament <
>>>>>> john.d.ament(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reza,
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> I read through the concurrency utils
spec. Was there a
>>>>>> specific section you had in mind? The only references to CDI
were near the
>>>>>> beginning warning users to not use Request/Session scoped beans
as tasks
>>>>>> since the outer most context may be destroyed before the work is
done.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a feeling what you're
referring to is the context
>>>>>> service:
>>>>>>
http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/api/javax/enterprise/concurrent/ContextSe...
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> If that's the case, then
basically this should work OOTB
>>>>>> right?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Task task = new MyTask();
>>>>>> >>>>>>> task =
contextService.createContextualProxy(task,
>>>>>> Task.class);
>>>>>> >>>>>>> executor.submit(task);
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> // now magically the context should
be prop'd?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is that about right?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> John
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 3:30 PM Reza
Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you actually looked at the EE
concurrency spec text in
>>>>>> detail? What does it say about managed component context
propagation?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>> Without actually doing that further
discussing this is just
>>>>>> taking shots in the dark. As an implementer it should not
surprise you that
>>>>>> this might simply be a bug because the person implementing the
concurrency
>>>>>> utilities for the EE runtime was not told about what to copy over
into the
>>>>>> new thread for CDI to work correctly.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 3:06 PM,
Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2016-03-06 20:59 GMT+01:00 Reza
Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as I know this is
precisely the sort of thing that
>>>>>> the EE concurrency spec is intended for. It is supposed to copy
over
>>>>>> everything from the underlying thread local context into the new
thread for
>>>>>> all EE managed components to function. Since CDI beans are also
EE
>>>>>> container managed, it also applies to CDI beans as well. The EE
vendor is
>>>>>> supposed to make sure this works properly.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't think the
concurrency utilities specifically lists
>>>>>> APIs for which thread context propagation should work. If this
doesn't work
>>>>>> in a specific implementation it's most likely because they
didn't take CDI
>>>>>> into account in their own EE concurrency implementation.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's what I wanted/would
like. CDI TCK breaks it quite
>>>>>> easily and @RequestScoped which is *used* today is sadly a
>>>>>> @ThreadLocalScoped badly named. So to solve it we would need
another scope
>>>>>> as I mentionned several times on this list 100% matching servlet
instances
>>>>>> lifecycles (on a pure CDI side we have the same issue for
sessions which
>>>>>> are recycled during a request, the session scope is corrupted *by
spec* in
>>>>>> term of user behavior).
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:45 PM,
John D. Ament <
>>>>>> john.d.ament(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The section of the spec you
link to makes no references to
>>>>>> threads. 6.3 makes some notes about normal scopes and threads,
and
>>>>>> specifically says that a context is bound to one or more
threads.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think what's happened
is that over the years, people
>>>>>> have simply bound HTTP Request == single thread, but when async
processing
>>>>>> was introduced no one thought to clarify that the spawning of a
child
>>>>>> thread from the original HTTP request retains the parent's
context.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is another requested
feature, but looks more like a
>>>>>> bug or gap in the spec.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 2:37
PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2016-03-06 20:25 GMT+01:00
Reza Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's see. I suspect the
specification text for EE
>>>>>> concurrency is generic enough for implementations to also be able
to cover
>>>>>> CDI scopes or any other Java EE API context propagation needs.
This means
>>>>>> the issue needs to be solved at the individual implementation
level.
>>>>>> Changing anything in the spec is probably just unnecessary
ceremony in this
>>>>>> case.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then 1. concurrency- utility
can't be reliable for "EE"
>>>>>> users, 2. CDI still prevent it to work since it would violate the
spec to
>>>>>> propagate it while request scope is bound to another thread (
>>>>>>
http://docs.jboss.org/cdi/spec/1.1/cdi-spec.html#request_context
>>>>>> handles async listener but not the main AsyncContext part).
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at 2:15
PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-06 19:42
GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This frankly surprises
me. I'll check the specification
>>>>>> text. This might indeed just be an implementation bug. The EE
concurrency
>>>>>> utilities are supposed to be copying all relevant context. If
this is an
>>>>>> issue than it has to be that it is not copying enough of the HTTP
request
>>>>>> context for CDI to work.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The issue is not
technical since I got it working but
>>>>>> needed to reverse. From my understanding ee concurrency utilities
was done
>>>>>> in a time CDI was not there so it just ignored it somehow and it
hasnt been
>>>>>> updated when integrated to the spec. Now with the wording of the
CDI - and
>>>>>> TCK - it is impossible to make it working since request scope is
bound the
>>>>>> thre request thread - and not the request. Side note: same
applies to
>>>>>> session scope and conversation.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surely the Red Hat folks
can quickly shed some light here
>>>>>> since they implement essentially this whole stack?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016, at
1:30 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-06 19:20
GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Can you kindly try
to make the example a bit simpler?
>>>>>> It's important to make the case for how likely this is
supposed to occur in
>>>>>> most business applications.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, other than
making sure that the executor service
>>>>>> is propagating thread local request contexts correctly what other
solution
>>>>>> are you proposing? Did you check the specification? How sure are
you that
>>>>>> this isn't simply an implementation bug?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the
executor service is supposed to be
>>>>>> preserving all relevant parts of the EE context?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not in
concurrency-utilities for EE at least. That was
>>>>>> the first impl I did then Mark pointed out it was violating CDI
spec and
>>>>>> request scope definition. There is a kind of contracdiction there
cause
>>>>>> concurrency-utilities doesn't integrate with CDI at all but
we can also see
>>>>>> it the opposite way: CDI doesn't provide any way to propagate
a context in
>>>>>> another thread. Both point of view are valid so we need to see
where we
>>>>>> tackle it.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016,
at 12:35 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>
https://gist.github.com/rmannibucau/d55fce47b001185dca3e help?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Idea is to give
an API to make:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
public void complete() {
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
try {
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
asyncContext.complete();
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
} finally {
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
auditContext.end();
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
}
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> working without
hacky and almost impossible context
>>>>>> pushing (cause of injections nature you are not supposed to know
what to
>>>>>> push in the context when going async).
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Romain
Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau |
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>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-03-06 16:40
GMT+01:00 Reza Rahman <
>>>>>> reza_rahman(a)lycos.com>:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you kindly
share an annotated code example of the
>>>>>> proposed solution so we can all follow and discuss this?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2016,
at 9:31 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>>>> rmannibucau(a)gmail.com> wroteshar:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> spoke on
concurrency utilities about the ability to
>>>>>> inherit a cdi scope. Idea is to follow request scope more than
cdi spec
>>>>>> allows. First thought it was a concurrency utilities thing but
Reza
>>>>>> mentionned can be a CDI one so here it is.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sample:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In a servlet
i get MyBean which is @RequestScoped, I
>>>>>> do some set on it. The i go async (AsyncContext) and trigger a
task in
>>>>>> another thread. It would be neat - and mandatory in some case by
the loose
>>>>>> coupling nature of CDI - to get the *same* MyBean *instance* in
this
>>>>>> thread. With a direct dependency you can easily use message
passing pattern
>>>>>> - but you loose the loose coupling cause you need to know until
which level
>>>>>> you unwrap, think t principal case which has 2-3 proxies!.
However in
>>>>>> practice you have a lot of undirect dependencies, in particular
with
>>>>>> enterprise concerns (auditing, security...) so you can't
really do it
>>>>>> easily/naturally.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bonus:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One very
verbose way is to be able to kind of push/pop
>>>>>> an existing context in a thread - wrappers doing it on a
>>>>>> Runnable/Consumer/Function/... would be neat.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Question:
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would CDI
handle it in 2.0?
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Side note:
this is really about the fact to reuse a
>>>>>> "context context" (its current instances map) in
another thread the more
>>>>>> transparently possible and match the user vision more than a
technical
>>>>>> question for now.
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain
Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau
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