Congratulations Pete! What do you think about a public voting as Ed did with JSF-2.2? Could give some good feedback. LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > From: Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; > Subject: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1 > To: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; > Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 11:25 AM > Hi everyone > > Welcome to the CDI 1.1 expert group. I've started to > collect some resources at https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki. Please take some > time to read through them. > > I would like everyone to work their way through the various > lists of issues in JIRA https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues and do > four things: > > * If you are aware of an issue that is not recorded, please > create one > * If you think an issue on the TBC list should be addressed > in CDI 1.1 then please make a note of this, and prepare an > email to this list explaining why you think the issue should > be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. > * If you think an issue on the proposed list shouldn't be > addressed then please make a note of this, and prepare an > email to this list explaining why you think the issue > shouldn't be included. Please restrict yourself to three > such issues. > * Write a note to the list indicating what issues you are > going to take a lead on. For major issues, prepare a 2 > minute summary for the concall so that you can brief people > on the issue. > > The (soft) deadline for this exercise is Wednesday 11th > May. Of course, we can continue to debate the merits of > issues after this, but to make things run smoothly it will > help a lot if we can get this done quickly! > > I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th May to > kick off, overview the main issues facing us and run through > who will take what issues. Here is my proposed slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... > - it's difficult to find something suitable for everyone, > but this does allow both people in Australia (late night) > and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to particpate. > > Any comments or suggestions welcome, > > Pete > _______________________________________________ > cdi-dev mailing list > cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >

The EG and extended EG first worked through all the Jira issues and did some documentation and feasibility checks. Before finishing the spec he called for feedback in the community basically asking them to vote for the jira issues (directly in jira) they see as most important to get fixed. http://weblogs.java.net/blog/edburns/archive/2011/04/25/vote-your-top-fiv... http://java.net/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?requestId=10523 Actually your own uidata issue comes out on top ;) LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > From: Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; > Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1 > To: "Mark Struberg" <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt; > Cc: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; > Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 11:49 AM > Can you briefly explain the system he > used? > > On 27 Apr 2011, at 12:47, Mark Struberg wrote: > >> Congratulations Pete! >> >> What do you think about a public voting as Ed did with > JSF-2.2? >> Could give some good feedback. >> >> LieGrue, >> strub >> >> >> --- On Wed, 4/27/11, Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: >> >>> From: Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> Subject: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1 >>> To: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >>> Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 11:25 AM >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> Welcome to the CDI 1.1 expert group. I've started > to >>> collect some resources at https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki. Please take some >>> time to read through them. >>> >>> I would like everyone to work their way through > the various >>> lists of issues in JIRA https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues and > do >>> four things: >>> >>> * If you are aware of an issue that is not > recorded, please >>> create one >>> * If you think an issue on the TBC list should be > addressed >>> in CDI 1.1 then please make a note of this, and > prepare an >>> email to this list explaining why you think the > issue should >>> be included. Please restrict yourself to three > such issues. >>> * If you think an issue on the proposed list > shouldn't be >>> addressed then please make a note of this, and > prepare an >>> email to this list explaining why you think the > issue >>> shouldn't be included. Please restrict yourself to > three >>> such issues. >>> * Write a note to the list indicating what issues > you are >>> going to take a lead on. For major issues, prepare > a 2 >>> minute summary for the concall so that you can > brief people >>> on the issue. >>> >>> The (soft) deadline for this exercise is Wednesday > 11th >>> May. Of course, we can continue to debate the > merits of >>> issues after this, but to make things run smoothly > it will >>> help a lot if we can get this done quickly! >>> >>> I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th > May to >>> kick off, overview the main issues facing us and > run through >>> who will take what issues. Here is my proposed > slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... >>> - it's difficult to find something suitable for > everyone, >>> but this does allow both people in Australia (late > night) >>> and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to > particpate. >>> >>> Any comments or suggestions welcome, >>> >>> Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cdi-dev mailing list >>> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >>> > >

Peter, I don´t know if this is happening to anyone else, but the links provided in https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues gives an error when opening in JIRA. It says: The selected filter is not available to you, perhaps it has been deleted or had its permissions changed. The selected filter with id '12314424' does not exist. Regards, George 2011/4/27 Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt;: > Hi everyone > > Welcome to the CDI 1.1 expert group. I've started to collect some resources at https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki. Please take some time to read through them. > > I would like everyone to work their way through the various lists of issues in JIRA https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues and do four things: > > * If you are aware of an issue that is not recorded, please create one > * If you think an issue on the TBC list should be addressed in CDI 1.1 then please make a note of this, and prepare an email to this list explaining why you think the issue should be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. > * If you think an issue on the proposed list shouldn't be addressed then please make a note of this, and prepare an email to this list explaining why you think the issue shouldn't be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. > * Write a note to the list indicating what issues you are going to take a lead on. For major issues, prepare a 2 minute summary for the concall so that you can brief people on the issue. > > The (soft) deadline for this exercise is Wednesday 11th May. Of course, we can continue to debate the merits of issues after this, but to make things run smoothly it will help a lot if we can get this done quickly! > > I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th May to kick off, overview the main issues facing us and run through who will take what issues. Here is my proposed slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... - it's difficult to find something suitable for everyone, but this does allow both people in Australia (late night) and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to particpate. > > Any comments or suggestions welcome, > > Pete > _______________________________________________ > cdi-dev mailing list > cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >

From: George Gastaldi <gastaldi(a)apache.org&gt; Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI 1.1 To: "Peter Muir" <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: "cdi-dev" <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 12:32 PM Hum, Still the same error around. Wonder if it´s just me ? 2011/4/27 Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt;: > Thanks, I've been through and checked that all are shared with everyone. Can you check now? > > On 27 Apr 2011, at 13:16, George Gastaldi wrote: > >> Peter, >> >> I don´t know if this is happening to anyone else, but the links >> provided in https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues gives an >> error when opening in JIRA. >> >> It says: The selected filter is not available to you, perhaps it has >> been deleted or had its permissions changed.  The selected filter with >> id '12314424' does not exist. >> >> Regards, >> >> George >> >> 2011/4/27 Peter Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt;: >>> Hi everyone >>> >>> Welcome to the CDI 1.1 expert group. I've started to collect some resources at https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki. Please take some time to read through them. >>> >>> I would like everyone to work their way through the various lists of issues in JIRA https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues and do four things: >>> >>> * If you are aware of an issue that is not recorded, please create one >>> * If you think an issue on the TBC list should be addressed in CDI 1.1 then please make a note of this, and prepare an email to this list explaining why you think the issue should be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. >>> * If you think an issue on the proposed list shouldn't be addressed then please make a note of this, and prepare an email to this list explaining why you think the issue shouldn't be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. >>> * Write a note to the list indicating what issues you are going to take a lead on. For major issues, prepare a 2 minute summary for the concall so that you can brief people on the issue. >>> >>> The (soft) deadline for this exercise is Wednesday 11th May. Of course, we can continue to debate the merits of issues after this, but to make things run smoothly it will help a lot if we can get this done quickly! >>> >>> I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th May to kick off, overview the main issues facing us and run through who will take what issues. Here is my proposed slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... - it's difficult to find something suitable for everyone, but this does allow both people in Australia (late night) and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to particpate. >>> >>> Any comments or suggestions welcome, >>> >>> Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cdi-dev mailing list >>> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > cdi-dev mailing list > cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev > _______________________________________________ cdi-dev mailing list cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev

Hi everyone Welcome to the CDI 1.1 expert group. I've started to collect some resources at https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki. Please take some time to read through them. I would like everyone to work their way through the various lists of issues in JIRA https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/CDI-1.1-issues and do four things: * If you are aware of an issue that is not recorded, please create one * If you think an issue on the TBC list should be addressed in CDI 1.1 then please make a note of this, and prepare an email to this list explaining why you think the issue should be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. * If you think an issue on the proposed list shouldn't be addressed then please make a note of this, and prepare an email to this list explaining why you think the issue shouldn't be included. Please restrict yourself to three such issues. * Write a note to the list indicating what issues you are going to take a lead on. For major issues, prepare a 2 minute summary for the concall so that you can brief people on the issue. The (soft) deadline for this exercise is Wednesday 11th May. Of course, we can continue to debate the merits of issues after this, but to make things run smoothly it will help a lot if we can get this done quickly! I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th May to kick off, overview the main issues facing us and run through who will take what issues. Here is my proposed slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... - it's difficult to find something suitable for everyone, but this does allow both people in Australia (late night) and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to particpate. Any comments or suggestions welcome, Pete _______________________________________________ cdi-dev mailing list cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev

I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th May to kick off, overview the main issues facing us and run through who will take what issues. Here is my proposed slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... - it's difficult to find something suitable for everyone, but this does allow both people in Australia (late night) and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to particpate.

Marius and Ales joined me for this and we ran over: * Clearing out minor and already fixed issues - there are a number of issues gavin already addressed, need to check that these aren't still open in JIRA (AI Pete) - assign minor issues to volunteers. Marius has agreed to work on interceptors/decorators, other volunteers for areas appreciated! (AI Pete to assign issues) * Resolution process - minor issues where there is obvious fix and no one from the EG has commented can have pull requests created and will be merged soon - minor issues where there is discussion about how to fix and major issues should have pull requests created when it appears that a consensus has been reached. After the pull request is created, there will be a two week period for review by the EG. Assuming there are no concerns raised in this time, the pull request will be merged and the issue closed - if there is no consensus on an issue then we will go with a majority decision, you must speak up within 1 week of the spec lead asking for a decision to be counted * Communication process - no regular calls, only if we reach an impasse on an issue - whilst we will make this group as open as possible, there may still be some private negotiations. We will ensure that even if the discussion is not public, then the conclusion reached is! I would love to be able to say everything will be done openly, but practically this is just not possible ;-) * TCK - Red Hat is (most likely) going to hire a full time person to work on the TCK - Primary jobs for this person to start with are: * convert existing tests to arquillian * increase coverage around extensions and complex deployment structures, and especially around where the intersect * increase coverage as needed elsewhere * aid EG members in writing TCK tests for new features - Version will be 1.1 - Will be hosted on github * RI - Weld will remain as RI, Ales leading work here - Weld 2.0 will be the first version implementing CDI 1.1 - For more info on non-spec related issues check the WELD issue tracker :-D * Community sponsored issues - Sponsor responsible for the spec changes (with help/review from spec lead) - And for TCK tests (help from TCK lead, review from spec lead) - Not responsible for impl in RI * Initially proposing that the TCK and RI integrate new work on a monthly basis (i.e. collect up all new issues + impl them). We didn't do any issue review or discuss priority as it was only RH people on the phone and we have already done this for the JSR. We can continue this discussion on the mailing list. In general next step is to continue work on issue tracker as we have been. Pete On 11 May 2011, at 17:44, Pete Muir wrote: > This is going ahead. > > Please call into my conference call line, details of which are here https://github.com/pmuir/cdi/wiki/Conference-Call-Info > > We'll also use elluminate in case we need a shared whiteboard https://sas.elluminate.com/m.jnlp?sid=819&password=M.5C6FF06D4B661894... > > See you there :-) > > Pete > > On 27 Apr 2011, at 12:25, Peter Muir wrote: > >> I propose we have conference call on Thursday 12th May to kick off, overview the main issues facing us and run through who will take what issues. Here is my proposed slot - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CDI+Kick+off+con... - it's difficult to find something suitable for everyone, but this does allow both people in Australia (late night) and the US West Coast (our two extremes) to particpate. >