Agreed on all counts. This is one case where formatting matters, because
people are going to see and interact with this code, even though I'd argue
they could just apply their own formatter, it's best if they be presented
with something nice to begin with :)
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Richard Kennard <
richard(a)kennardconsulting.com> wrote:
George's point is well taken. The current tests could be made
less
fragile. In particular, there have been a number of complaints about '\r\n
versus \n'
when building on Windows/Linux. I believe these are all resolved now, but
the basic concept is sound.
Having said that, there *is* something important about testing the white
space. Namely, we are making sure the generated code is indented correctly
(has
the correct number of \t's) relative to its surrounding template. The idea
is that it doesn't 'stick out' as being generated code.
Also, with respect to 'black-box versus unit tests', I don't think this
should be an either-or thing. I think we should have both.
Regards,
Richard.
On 13/06/2012 3:12 PM, Dan Allen wrote:
> Let's not miss the original point that George makes, which is that
comparing the structure may make less fragile tests than comparing the raw
HTML. I
> tend to agree, unless there is something very important about
maintaining the whitespace. Even then, a structure comparison tool should
be able to
> accommodate that rule.
>
> -Dan
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Lincoln Baxter, III <
lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com <mailto:lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'm not sure there's a great way around this aside from a more
black-box functional approach, but even that might not be getting as
> fine-grained as some of these tests need to be. With greater test
coverage, I think it could be replaced, however.
>
> ~Lincoln
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Richard Kennard <
richard(a)kennardconsulting.com <mailto:richard@kennardconsulting.com>>
wrote:
>
> +1 for this.
>
> However note there are different levels of tests. Classes like
FacesScaffoldScenarioTest are only meant to test very small, very specific
things.
> Basically
> regression testing. Classes like FacesScaffoldWeatherTest are
also small and specific.
>
> The real testing is done using Arquillian (like
FacesScaffoldPetClinicClient and FacesScaffoldShoppingClient). Because
whilst your point about
> 'if you
> place a line break in a generated XHTML... it breaks the whole
test' is very valid, even with XmlUnit you are vulnerable to 'if you place
an
> extra XML
> element in a generated XHTML... it breaks the whole test'.
>
> Testing through Arquillian is the only way to be really sure the
generated app actually works, IMHO. Because you are testing it the way the
user
> would.
>
> However, definitely +1 for using XmlUnit, as far as that goes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard.
>
> On 12/06/2012 12:09 PM, George Gastaldi wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I noticed that most of our scaffold unit tests are kinda hard
to
> > maintain. specially because they compare XHTML as strings,
instead of
> > the structure as a whole.
> > This implies that if you place a line break in a generated
XHTML for
> > example, it breaks the whole test as well.
> > What about if we refactor these tests to use XmlUnit instead ?
> > (
http://xmlunit.sourceforge.net/)
> > This way we could compare the structure without the ugly plain
string
> > comparison, WDYT ?
> >
> >
> > Regards,,
> > George Gastaldi
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