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Max Rydahl Andersen commented on JBIDE-20100:
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d) so now we make it more complicated to disable the earlyaccess repository ? that seems
unnecessary to me.
"the fact that you have some Early-Access repositories enabled doesn't guarantee
that when installing a connector, you get the Early-Access version of its
features/plugins." - some EA repositories ? There are only *one* repository. And how
are you avoiding it will not get the earlyaccess versions of angularjs ?
"With our current implementation of Central and the connectors we have, the same
feature isn't available in 2 different versions" - the intent of earlyaccess have
always been to also be able to allow *earlier* versions of the same thing installed. I do
not think we should limit our UX experience here to a world where we will *always*
guarantee there are zero overlap between the two.
And this *is* a change compared to the old UI where when earlyaccess was enabled you were
not in any way offered to install the GA versions since we know it will install the EA
parts once the EA site is added. So this is for sure a consequence/ambiguity this new UI
introduces.
"The description doesn't even mention anything about older JBDS. It's more
your mind which is focused on that part than the initial user request.". Let me quote
from the description which *I* wrote and which Jim provided input to - a user that just
commented the exact concern about not being able to guarantee tooling are available for
users to use :)
""<without earlyaccess> why doesn’t my screen shot tell me to use an older
version of JBDS or something.""
That is the first and foremost issue and still not solved.
"To me, this means that we can put current Fuse IDE as an "Early Access"
connector in JBDS 9" - *we* (you and I) do not get to decide when that is available;
nor is everything in JBDS-IS currently available for JBDS 9 EA so the issue still
remains.
The current PR does not solve the problem raised, and it currently introduces an ambiguity
about what will happen wen earlyaccess repositories are added - if we are going to do a
change here we need to at least make sure the behavior is not ambiguous.
If we are going to leave out the "tell users when things are not even available in
EA" part of this that will only happen because just by luck we have enough IS
available .... but this will not help us at 9.1, 10.0, etc.
how to make users aware of fuse and other tooling only being
available from earlyaccess?
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Key: JBIDE-20100
URL:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Bug
Components: central
Reporter: Max Rydahl Andersen
Assignee: Mickael Istria
Fix For: 4.3.0.CR1
Attachments: JBIDE-20100-2.png
[~jtyrrell] find it confusing when he cannot see Fuse and other earlyaccess features
immediately on the install page.
Some comments:
"I install JBDS 8.1 and click on the JBoss Integration and SOA Development, but
where is the Fuse tooling in that list."
"<without earlyaccess> why doesn’t my screen shot tell me to use an older
version of JBDS or something."
Suggestion:
"when I picked the Integration Stack a greyed out Fuse IDE thingy in the list of
choices, and something like (Select early Access) to enable this feature."
I'm fine exploring options to show early access features more prominently but would
prefer we would not need to treat Fuse "special" so maybe we should have a
"Early Access" section at the bottom instead of filtered in between everything
else ?
and for any connectors that has additional/different features just add a "Extra
features available in Early access " comment ?
But what to do when Fuse or others dont even have an earlyaccess out yet ? (like is
currently the state for devstudio 9)
[~crobson], [~aileenc] and [~lhein] got any suggestions ?
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