4:43 p.m.
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
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Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: JSF, jsp/jsf/xml source editing, Visual Page Editor core, Visual
Page Editor Templates, XML Structured Editor
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Max Rydahl Andersen updated JBIDE-5663:
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Component/s: (was: JSF)
(was: Visual Page Editor Templates)
(was: XML Structured Editor)
(was: jsp/jsf/xml source editing)
Fix Version/s: 3.2.next
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Thanks Igor, I agree with your points and we should start looking at bringing VPE to the
"next level" within the limits of what we can do via XulRunner.
Creation of table should be better, I completely agree and I think just making insertion
of rich:datatable be defaulting to something like a 3x1 table instead of the current
behavior would be going a long way.
darg'n'drop might require more magic to make work properly.
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
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Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.2.next
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Maxim Areshkau updated JBIDE-5663:
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Fix Version/s: 3.3.x
(was: 3.2.x)
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Igor Jacy Lino Campista commented on JBIDE-5663:
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Another interesting workflow:
http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/en-us/lightswitch
go to "Watch videos about lightswitch"
go to the video "Friendly User Interfaces"
(note that the full screen option just worked in IE)
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
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Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Maxim Areshkau commented on JBIDE-5663:
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Have viewed the MIcrosoft video about Friendly User Interface. On this shows just SMTH
like new page wizard, where you can select some predefined template or define your own. We
have such wizard too, see https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-6131. So what's special
here?
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Maxim Areshkau edited comment on JBIDE-5663 at 9/3/10 9:10 AM:
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Have viewed the MIcrosoft video about Friendly User Interface. On this shows just smth.
like new page wizard, where you can select some predefined template or define your own. We
have such wizard too, see https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-6131. So what's special
here?
was (Author: mareshkau):
Have viewed the MIcrosoft video about Friendly User Interface. On this shows just SMTH
like new page wizard, where you can select some predefined template or define your own. We
have such wizard too, see https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-6131. So what's special
here?
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Igor Jacy Lino Campista commented on JBIDE-5663:
------------------------------------------------
@Maxim: cannot completely remember now (the video is also not anymore accesible). I think
my last comment does not concern the visual editor and the wizard workflow discussion does
really belong here. If I remember correctly, you have visual templates in the wizard,
instead of xml templates. Showing the rendering of samples templates, I think that was the
point.
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Igor Jacy Lino Campista edited comment on JBIDE-5663 at 2/2/11 4:55 AM:
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@Maxim: cannot completely remember now (the video is also not anymore accesible). I think
my last comment does not concern the visual editor and the wizard workflow discussion does
not really belong here. If I remember correctly, you have visual templates in the wizard,
instead of xml templates. Showing the rendering of samples templates, I think that was the
point.
was (Author: icampista):
@Maxim: cannot completely remember now (the video is also not anymore accesible). I
think my last comment does not concern the visual editor and the wizard workflow
discussion does really belong here. If I remember correctly, you have visual templates in
the wizard, instead of xml templates. Showing the rendering of samples templates, I think
that was the point.
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Maxim Areshkau
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Yahor Radtsevich updated JBIDE-5663:
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Assignee: Yahor Radtsevich (was: Maxim Areshkau)
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
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Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Yahor Radtsevich
Fix For: 3.3.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
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Totally a charm to use.
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Yahor Radtsevich updated JBIDE-5663:
------------------------------------
Fix Version/s: 3.4.x
(was: 3.3.x)
Bulk moved to 3.4.x
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Yahor Radtsevich
Fix For: 3.4.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
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Yahor Radtsevich updated JBIDE-5663:
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Fix Version/s: 4.0.0.Alpha2
(was: 4.0.0.Alpha1)
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
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Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Yahor Radtsevich
Fix For: 4.0.0.Alpha2
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
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Fix Version/s: 4.0.x
(was: 4.0.0.Alpha2)
improved WYSIWYG editor experience
------------------------------------
Key: JBIDE-5663
URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-5663
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Feature Request
Components: Visual Page Editor core
Reporter: Igor Jacy Lino Campista
Assignee: Yahor Radtsevich
Fix For: 4.0.x
I normally use the jboss tools 3 and it could be really really useful and productive if
the visual editor would be more intelligent and user friendly when working on top of it.
With that I mean not only resize some visible components or change a few properties but
really the consistency how one has a workflow working mostly visually for all JSF
components (i.e. Richfaces).
For example creating a table from scratch is actually not that a simple task. and At some
point you cannot even drag and drop a column since the editor won't allowing (showing
the red icon). The Netbeans JSP editor when drag-n-droping a table, it will show a dummy
nice-looking table with 3 sample columns ready to modify them. Adding extra columns
visually in the netbeans editor also fits quite well, etc.
I recently came across a nice DITA WYSIWYG editor (Serna) in the technical
documentation domain (You may editor docbook or DITA content totally visual). see
http://www.syntext.com/products/serna-free/
and also http://www.syntext.com/images/screenshots/serna-free-on-vista.png
In the Serna editor, the easiness of adding new elements working on the visual part is
really amazing. It shows quite well where you are (for example you know when you are
before, within or after an element) and adding extra elements feels also quite good
(ctrl-enter gives you a dialog of elements you can add based on where you are. INSIDE THE
VISUAL PART of the editor).
Totally a charm to use.
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Igor Jacy Lino Campista (JIRA) -
Max Rydahl Andersen (JIRA)
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Maxim Areshkau (JIRA)
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Yahor Radtsevich (JIRA)