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Max Rydahl Andersen commented on JBIDE-20100:
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thanks for the screencast, here are some initial comments then later on some concerns:
a) I assume the dialog does not show up if there is just one connector available and it is
GA'ed (non-early access), right ?
b) it should automatically select an option - I suggest the supported version and after
that what user chose last.
c) earlyaccess should not be the first item in the list.
d) how do I disable earlyaccess so it will remove the EA updatesite from the list of
updatesites it will look at ?
and now the issue with this approach:
Once you have installed something from early access the earlyaccess updatesite is added to
your jbds install and thus the choice you have here really does not guarantee you that the
GA bits will be installed over what is in the earlyaccess.
IMO, once a user the first time have said yes to earlyaccess and thus *enabled*
earlyaccess he don't really have a choice anymore until he disables it.
About the making JBDS users aware of using older JBDS - that was the main issue in this
jira and I suggested a few times now how to do it (introduce a new connector type or
certification which won't install anything but provide a way to tell users where to
get things from). It is not an either or situation we have here - we need this (to stop
having jiras and discussions about Fuse etc. missing from the field) AND we need to
investe in having Fuse build compatible enough with JBDS - but the latter haven't
worked the last 4 years and i'm sure we won't be much better of in the future nor
does enabling earlyacccess by default work (as described above). What is so
difficult/wrong about providing a way for us to tell users to go use another version for
download ? (sure - it hurts my professional soul having to do it, but not handling it is
no longer an option).
how to make users aware of fuse and other tooling only being
available from earlyaccess?
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Key: JBIDE-20100
URL:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100
Project: Tools (JBoss Tools)
Issue Type: Bug
Components: central
Reporter: Max Rydahl Andersen
Assignee: Mickael Istria
Fix For: 4.3.0.CR1
Attachments: JBIDE-20100-2.png
[~jtyrrell] find it confusing when he cannot see Fuse and other earlyaccess features
immediately on the install page.
Some comments:
"I install JBDS 8.1 and click on the JBoss Integration and SOA Development, but
where is the Fuse tooling in that list."
"<without earlyaccess> why doesn’t my screen shot tell me to use an older
version of JBDS or something."
Suggestion:
"when I picked the Integration Stack a greyed out Fuse IDE thingy in the list of
choices, and something like (Select early Access) to enable this feature."
I'm fine exploring options to show early access features more prominently but would
prefer we would not need to treat Fuse "special" so maybe we should have a
"Early Access" section at the bottom instead of filtered in between everything
else ?
and for any connectors that has additional/different features just add a "Extra
features available in Early access " comment ?
But what to do when Fuse or others dont even have an earlyaccess out yet ? (like is
currently the state for devstudio 9)
[~crobson], [~aileenc] and [~lhein] got any suggestions ?
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