You nailed my concern Steve. I've never actually used AdminShell for admin tasks, I
use it like
SQL*PLUS. I think there are probably more reasons to separate these concerns than to
combine them. I haven't looked at either of the two tools you linked to, but if we
can validate that one of them works well enough then I think that should be sufficient for
a query tool for Teiid.
I think the added verbosity of the groovy solution is more acceptable for an admin tool
than for a query tool, and is worth it given the added capabilities that multiple
connections offer.
~jd
----- "Steven Hawkins" <shawkins(a)redhat.com> wrote:
As a separate tool it is focused enough to support features such as
sql command completion and other much beyond what we can offer :)
Integration with Groovy isn't really the right path coming from this
direction. You would rather see us support more functionality through
sql, like the old admin vdb - which could be added back easily with
the reduced admin logic and admin objects that map to xml (sqlxml).
We should even support in line definition of procedures, which may
require changes in the tool to support, but would mitigate the need
for introducing another language.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com>
To: "Steven Hawkins" <shawkins(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul Nittel" <pnittel(a)redhat.com>, "teiid-users"
<teiid-users(a)lists.jboss.org>, "teiid-dev"
<teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 6:31:27 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [teiid-dev] Alternative scripting envrionment for
AdminShell
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 17:22 -0400, Steven Hawkins wrote:
> Even with those limitations I understand that it does serve as a
> reasonable approximation to something like SQL*Plus. I question
> whether we need to support specialized tooling for this purpose
(over
> just using what's available in Groovy). We could just as well
promote
> the use of
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sqlshell/ or the older
>
http://henplus.sourceforge.net/.
As separate tool it seems verbose and fragmented offering. If we can
integrate these tools into groovy or add missing features as pulgins
into these tools seems like the right path. The both tools above have
their own shell environments, integrating with them or into groovy,
both
may be challenging.
Henplus, seems to have extensive features, and seems to have the
simultaneous name based connections, so it definitely gets my vote if
we
decide go this route.
Ramesh..
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