[cdi-dev] cyclic references

Hi Folks! I know we already discussed that cyclic references in @PostConstruct and @Inject methods are not allowed (btw, did we also nail this down in the spec properly? This is implicitly defined in commons-annotations). But what about @PreDestroy? As the destroy order is not defined for normalscoped beans it could happen that a bean already got wiped and destroyed while another one likes to access it. So it's not only a problem of cycles, but might also happen without. sample: @RequestScoped public class BeanA {   @Inject BeanB b;   @PreDestroy   public void destroyMe() {     b.dosomething();   } } and @RequestScoped public class BeanB {   public void dosomething() {..}   @PreDestroy   public void dropDatabaseConnection() {...} } Now lets imagine that BeanB got destroyed earlier than BeanA .... It's atm purely random. Imo this is ok, but should we point users to this behaviour? LieGrue, strub