In this particular case it concerns the javax.faces.jar for JSF 2.3.
Some vendors split up this archive in two, an API jar and an impl, jar
(although for JSF 2.3 we don't really encourage this).
Could you explain, why the JSF 2.3 API and RI are molded together?
If the API JAR is no longer separate from the RI (as it was till
javax.faces-api-2.2.jar
<
>)
it seems, every vendor has to build that API JAR from scratch, or carry a
3-4 MB JAR where the API in 2.2 was just a little under 700kB ?;-|
Not to mention often bizarre side-effects if you (accidentially in that
case) mix multiple JSF implementations in some web-apps. I had to resolve
many of those myself between e.g. the JBoss implementation and Apache
RichFaces.
Werner
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1. getBeanClass return value for build-in beans? (arjan tijms)
2. CDI 2.0 EDR: Questions on asynchronous observers (Nigel Deakin)
3. Re: getBeanClass return value for build-in beans?
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4. Re: getBeanClass return value for build-in beans? (Martin Kouba)
5. Re: CDI 2.0 EDR: Questions on asynchronous observers
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6. Re: getBeanClass return value for build-in beans? (arjan tijms)
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:07:04 +0200
From: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] getBeanClass return value for build-in beans?
To: Jozef Hartinger <jharting(a)redhat.com>
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Hi,
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Jozef Hartinger <jharting(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> Therefore, you are free to use any class as a bean class that:
> 1) properly identifies the bean archive (i.e. is located in the bean
archive
> where you want the custom bean to belong)
In this particular case it concerns the javax.faces.jar for JSF 2.3.
Some vendors split up this archive in two, an API jar and an impl, jar
(although for JSF 2.3 we don't really encourage this). Therefor it
looks like it does make a difference if the Bean<T> implementation
will return this.class (an implementation type, like Weld does) or say
Flash.class (an API class).
> What you indicated in the previous e-mails - that Weld does not work
> properly if the bean class is an abstract class looks like a bug in Weld
> that I will be investigating.
I'm not 100% sure what the intend is. Is the proxy supposed to only
implement methods of the Types that are returned by the Bean<T>
implementation, or should it be smart enough to look at the super
types of whatever Type is returned?
So given:
public abstract class AbstractClass implements Interface { ... }
If getTypes returns only Abstract.class, then only the methods defined
by AbstractClass itself are implemented by the proxy. Those from
Interface throw exceptions when called.
If getTypes returns both Abstract.class and Interface.class, then all
methods defined by AbstractClass and Interface are implemented by the
proxy.
Is this how things should be, or should the proxy generator see for
itself that AbstractClass implements Interface?
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
>
> HTH,
>
> Jozef
>
>
>
>
> On 11.8.2015 12:26, arjan tijms wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is split-off from the thread "Bean<T> that only qualifies super
>> types?", where the question came up what a Bean<T> should return
from
>> the getBeanClass() method for the case of build-in beans.
>>
>> The JavaDoc for getBeanClass() currently says the following:
>>
>> "The bean class of the managed bean or session bean or of the bean
>> that declares the producer method or field."
>>
>> See:
>>
https://javaee-spec.java.net/nonav/javadocs/javax/enterprise/inject/spi/B...
>>
>> The case where a Bean<T> instance is directly created and added as
>> bean to AfterBeanDiscovery in an extension does not seem to be covered
>> by this documentation.
>>
>> Weld returns "this.class" here.
>>
>> See
>>
http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.jboss.weld.se/weld-se...
>>
>> Is that what build-in beans should always do, and if so, should the
>> JavaDoc/spec be clarified for this?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Arjan Tijms
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:07:51 +0200
From: arjan tijms <arjan.tijms(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] getBeanClass return value for build-in beans?
To: Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com>
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Hi Martin,
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> please create a new spec issue. This should be definitely clarified.
I'll do that, thanks!
Kind regards,
Arjan Tijms
>
> Thanks,
> Martin
>
> Dne 12.8.2015 v 10:10 Jozef Hartinger napsal(a):
>
>> Hi Arjan,
>>
>> the bean class in CDI is used for two purposes:
>>
>> 1) to identify the bean archive the bean belongs to (this is crucial for
>> inter-module injection)
>> 2) if the bean is an alternative, interceptor or decorator the bean
>> class is used for matching with beans.xml enablement entries
>>
>> Other than these, there are no restrictions imposed by the spec. Note
>> that there is absolutely no requirement that the bean class is part of
>> the bean types (as demonstrated by producer method/fields for example).
>>
>> Therefore, you are free to use any class as a bean class that:
>> 1) properly identifies the bean archive (i.e. is located in the bean
>> archive where you want the custom bean to belong)
>> 2) if the bean is an alternative, interceptor or decorator then choose
>> the class whose name you want people to put to beans.xml when enabling
it
>>
>> What you indicated in the previous e-mails - that Weld does not work
>> properly if the bean class is an abstract class looks like a bug in Weld
>> that I will be investigating.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Jozef
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11.8.2015 12:26, arjan tijms wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is split-off from the thread "Bean<T> that only qualifies
super
>>> types?", where the question came up what a Bean<T> should return
from
>>> the getBeanClass() method for the case of build-in beans.
>>>
>>> The JavaDoc for getBeanClass() currently says the following:
>>>
>>> "The bean class of the managed bean or session bean or of the bean
>>> that declares the producer method or field."
>>>
>>> See:
>>>
https://javaee-spec.java.net/nonav/javadocs/javax/enterprise/inject/spi/B...
>>>
>>> The case where a Bean<T> instance is directly created and added as
>>> bean to AfterBeanDiscovery in an extension does not seem to be covered
>>> by this documentation.
>>>
>>> Weld returns "this.class" here.
>>>
>>> See
>>>
http://grepcode.com/file/repo1.maven.org/maven2/org.jboss.weld.se/weld-se...
>>>
>>> Is that what build-in beans should always do, and if so, should the
>>> JavaDoc/spec be clarified for this?
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Arjan Tijms
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