On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
"This is exactly where I hope Forge will *not* go."
Forge core will certainly not go that directly, but I won't stop anyone from writing
a Plugin suite that does.
Of course not - but a plugin couldn't do this on its own...it would require a runtime
part :) but that wasn't what was suggested, neither in Burr's or my replies
afacis.
point is that alot of the integration we got today would disappear or require a lot of
redundant functionality to be implemented.
Hence why I hinted on it being interesting if a runtime framework could find a good
balance here.
/max
~Lincoln
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> One thing I was planning on discussing with Lincoln and the Forge roadmap is around
the idea of "Forge as a 4GL" - at the moment it feels mostly like a static code
generator - which has the problem of schema changes. But Forge as a 4GL could be more
responsive, almost "runtime" code generation. More like what you get in the
Rails world. :-)
This is exactly where I hope Forge will *not* go.
Mixing up the toolside with the runtime side is what tech like Spring Roo does and its my
opinion an utter mess and confusion and very hard tech lock-in.
But Forge could be great in using stuff like MetaWidget on runtime side, complete
hibernate tools support for partial reverse engineering and have the code generation be
able to handle incremental changes with something like jmerge would be able to provide
alot of bang for the buck.
On runtime side it could be interesting if a runtime framework could find a good balance
between runtime generation and still being static enough to be useful with CDI and similar
frameworks which
can be validated/inspected much easier than pure runtime stuff like Roo or Rails.
/max
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