Re: [forge-users] Scaffolding in Forge 2.x (was Beta5 next Monday ?)

Em 04/01/2014, às 18:47, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu: So as a user, I execute Forge, once in the shell I hit TAB and see cd, ls, touch, man... I install the jpa-addon, I hit TAB, I see these new commands, I install the jsf-addon, I hit TAB, and see these new commands.... 2014/1/4 Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing(a)gmail.com&gt; > But if I take your definition : > > > Scaffolding basically is code generation. Right now there is nothing interactive or re-consumable about it. > > Then, generating entities from an already existing database, is scaffolding. So I expect a forge -i jpa-addon. Then I get a set of entities, and with Forge I can cd the entity and do a jpa-new-field. In this example I scaffold and then add something to a generated entity. > > What's important in your sentence is "Right now". What if one day we scaffold JSF pages and beans and we are able to cd a backing bean and do jsf-new-field... then, there is no difference between JPA and JSF. > > My point is that as a user, I don't understand why when I hit TAB, by default, I can see jpa commands, but not JSF or REST commands. I need to install addons for some, and it's already installed for others. > > Maybe Forge should just be an empty shell (cd, ls, touch, man...) with no extensions at all, and then I need to do a forge -i jpa-addon, forge -i jsf-addon, forge -i rest-addon to get extensions.... and if I'm lazy and just want to develop a Java EE app, I'll go forge -i javaee-addon. > > My 2 cents > > 2014/1/4 Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com&gt; > >> Hey Antonio! >> >> Again, more excellent feedback! Thank you! >> >>> First, I really don't see the difference between scaffolding and code generation (I've mention that before). So, for me, as a user, jpa-new-entity is a command that generates code, just like scaffold-generate. But if we clarify this, users might get use to it. >> >> Scaffolding basically is code generation. Right now there is nothing interactive or re-consumable about it. >> >> Regarding the fact that you weren't able to see anything about JSF. I believe this is likely due to this issue that we identified in Beta4 and have fixed and tested for .Final --> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1407 >> >> For example. This is still a bit strange because unless you have multiple scaffolds installed, you don't see the choice of scaffold type, but when I run scaffold setup in the latest SNAPSHOT, I see: >> >>> [jpa-demo]$ scaffold- >>> scaffold-generate scaffold-setup >>> [jpa-demo]$ scaffold-setup --facesVersion 2. >>> 2.2 2.1 2.0 >>> [jpa-demo]$ scaffold-setup --facesVersion 2.2 >> >> >> Additionally, when I type `--provider` manually without using TAB completion, then TAB complete the value, I do see the provider option, so there may still be something wrong with the fix for FORGE-1407: >> >>> [main]$ scaffold-setup --provider Faces >> >> ~Lincoln >> >> >>> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>> Scaffolding is really confusing. To scaffold my JSF pages I first need to install scaffolding : >>> >>> forge -i scaffold >>> >>> And then, once in Forge I do : >>> >>> scaffold-setup >>> scaffold-generate --targets org.test.model.Customer >>> >>> And it generates JSF pages. Nowhere I see any mention of JSF in the previous commands. These commands could have generated REST endpoint, EJBs, AngularJS.... >>> >>> First, I really don't see the difference between scaffolding and code generation (I've mention that before). So, for me, as a user, jpa-new-entity is a command that generates code, just like scaffold-generate. But if we clarify this, users might get use to it. >>> >>> When I type forge -i scaffold, it installs plenty of stuff. Does this mean it installs all the available scaffolding addons (JSF, REST, AngularJS, Arquillian...) ? If not, I don't know what it installed. Why don't we have : >>> >>> forge -i scaffold-jsf >>> forge -i scaffold-jpa >>> forge -i scaffold-rest >>> forge -i scaffold-soap >>> >>> or even better if we follow the new naming convention >>> >>> forge -i jsf-scaffold >>> forge -i jpa-scaffold >>> forge -i rest-scaffold >>> forge -i soap-scaffold >>> >>> Again, when I type scaffold-generate I really don't know what will happen. Because scaffolding and generating are the same for me. So command scaffold-generate sounds like generate-generate or scaffold-scaffold. Why not having : >>> >>> jsf-scaffold --targets org.test.model.Customer >>> jpa-scaffold --dbName myDB --jdbcDriver org.apache.derby.Client >>> rest-scaffold --targets org.test.model.Customer >>> soap-scaffold --targets org.test.model.Customer >>> >>> What do you think ? >>> Antonio >>> >>> >>> 2014/1/4 George Gastaldi <ggastald(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>> The JSF scaffold was not installed with core in Beta4. We fixed that for 2.0.0.Final. Run forge -i scaffold to install it. >>>> >>>> Worth to mention that the available commands only generate the REST resource for the entities, the JSF scaffold does not consume them. >>>> >>>>> Em 04/01/2014, às 13:53, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> I can't see any command for REST of JSF scaffolding, so I suppose both are addons. How do I install these addons ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2014/1/4 George Gastaldi <ggastald(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> REST generation from JPA entities is already functional too. >>>>>> Use rest-setup and rest-endpoint-from-entity >>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 04/01/2014, às 11:52, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hum... I forgot, I also need REST scaffolding.... might be a bit tight in schedule.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014/1/3 George Gastaldi <ggastald(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>>>> Both issues are now fixed. JSF scaffolding is ready since Beta4. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We could release Beta5 monday but as we said in the IRC, 2.0.0.Final is due in Jan 15th, so that's up to Lincoln. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Em 03/01/2014, às 19:04, Antonio Goncalves <antonio.mailing(a)gmail.com&gt; escreveu: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi JBoss Forge Team, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I should have mentioned that before, but next Tuesday (at the Lille JUG in France) and Thursday (London, GlassFish User Group), I'll be giving a talk on JBoss Forge. It's the same one I gave at JavaOne (http://blog.arungupta.me/2013/12/come-and-play-with-javaee7-javaone-2013-...) but with few extra features. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm doing it with Forge 1.x.... but actually, the only missing bits to make it run with Forge 2.x are : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Bean Validation (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1393) >>>>>>>>> * Java enums (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/FORGE-1400) >>>>>>>>> * JSF scaffolding >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I was just wondering if this would be available on Monday for a Beta5 so I could use it >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (just joking ;o) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Antonio Goncalves >>>>>>>>> Software architect and Java Champion >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> forge-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> forge-users mailing list >>>>>>>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Antonio Goncalves >>>>>>> Software architect and Java Champion >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> forge-users mailing list >>>>>>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> forge-users mailing list >>>>>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Antonio Goncalves >>>>> Software architect and Java Champion >>>>> >>>>> Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> forge-users mailing list >>>>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> forge-users mailing list >>>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Antonio Goncalves >>> Software architect and Java Champion >>> >>> Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> forge-users mailing list >>> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users >> >> >> >> -- >> Lincoln Baxter, III >> http://ocpsoft.org >> "Simpler is better." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> forge-users mailing list >> forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users > > > > > -- > Antonio Goncalves > Software architect and Java Champion > > Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France -- Antonio Goncalves Software architect and Java Champion Web site | Twitter | LinkedIn | Paris JUG | Devoxx France _______________________________________________ forge-users mailing list forge-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-users