Re: [jsr-314-open-mirror] [jsr-314-open] question regarding ajax update cycle

The problem here is either behavior is wrong (not sure which is wronger), in the end the only real fix is to expose the full partialresponse writer API to the component author to give him full access on how his subpart on the page gets updated. This road currently is blocked simply by enforcing an open update tag on the components from the rendering lifecycle! The workaround is to make the component authors aware that for the PPR case within a component they always should make a root node which has the identifier of ClientId and embed their own rendering into this root node (div, span, whatever) So if I follow a broken approach I personally prefer to use the one which is consistent over all two implementations. In the end the only fix I know which makes sense to this problem is to add a marker interface to the spec something like PPRAware and a separate component renderer method, renderPPR and then adding placeholders for the component while the update tag is open, defer the rendering of the PPRAware component to the stage when update is closed and then render those deferred components by giving them control over the update, insert etc... possibilities wie theoretically have in the API and practically can only use outside of the render cycle :-( On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Martin Marinschek <mmarinschek(a)apache.org <mailto:mmarinschek@apache.org>> wrote: Hi guys, is it really useful to follow Mojarra's behaviour here? I think it might be a little better to have a wandering div (and see that something is wrong) than just ignoring the second div and with this let the developer in the believe that everything is alright, which it really isn't. best regards, Martin On 4/7/10, Werner Punz <werner.punz(a)gmail.com <mailto:werner.punz@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yes that is what I was basically posting as workaround to the issue I got, > nevertheless I now coded Mojarras behavior into MyFaces, just to be > consistent here. > (With the exception that I also fixed it on the IE side as Mojarra behaves > for > more compliant browsers to have the same behavior over all browsers) > > I do not expect any component author really doing it differently than you > said, Alex, but in the end to really resolve the problem we probably have to > resolve the enforced update issue in the long run so that the > PartialResponseWriter API can be used in its full extent and glory by the > component authors instead of being shoehorned into an already open update > tag! > > Werner > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Alexander Smirnov > <asmirnov(a)exadel.com <mailto:asmirnov@exadel.com>>wrote: > >> You have to keep in mind that JSF Ajax updates component content, not >> the Html elements. Therefore, any component have to has enclosing Html >> element ( <div> , <span> whatever else ) with id attribute generated as >> the component clientId to be compatible with Ajax. In your case, you >> have to create placeholder element ( probably <div> ) that encapsulates >> both of your elements. >> >> On 04/06/2010 09:42 AM, Werner Punz wrote: >> > Hello everyone, I ran into an issue regarding the update, which is >> > closely related to a behavior jsf2 exposes regarding component rendering >> > in the update cycle. >> > >> > The main issue is following: If we have a component which we trigger >> > with following code: >> > >> > <myComp:javascriptTestComponent >> > id="myTestComponent"></grv:javascriptTestComponent> >> > <a href="#" name="mego3" >> > >> > onclick="jsf.ajax.request(this,event,{execute:'myTestComponent', >> > render:'myTestComponent'}); return false;">submit >> > me</a> >> > >> > and the component itself renders following in its renderer: >> > >> > ResponseWriter writer = context.getResponseWriter(); >> > writer.startElement(DIV, component); >> > writer.writeAttribute(ID,component.getClientId(context), null ); >> > writer.write("hello world"+Math.random()); >> > writer.endElement(DIV); >> > >> > writer = context.getResponseWriter(); >> > writer.startElement(DIV, component); >> > >> > writer.writeAttribute(ID,component.getClientId(context)+":_second", null >> ); >> > writer.write("hello world"+Math.random()); >> > writer.endElement(DIV); >> > >> > >> > the resulting ppr response now looks like following: >> > >> > |<update id="myTestComponent"> >> > >> > <![CDATA||[<div id="myTestComponent">hello world0.8619488403376933</div> >> > <div id="myTestComponent:_second">hello|| >> world0.25176272071402683</div>]]> >> > >> > </update>...| >> > >> > Now the problem is, since the update part of the response is already >> > opened the component author cannot really influence the response >> > rendering in any meaningful way (the correct solution would be to issue >> > two update commands here) >> > Now the javascript has to react on the client side to resolve that >> > situation. >> > >> > Now MyFaces just replaced the original >> > >> > |myTestComponent| >> > >> > with the update code and hence the result was a div wandering down (aka >> > wrong update) >> > >> > hello world0.48748236239247755 >> > hello world0.6020541783857698 >> > hello world0.7181842402648805 >> > hello world0.2803064696069696 >> > (after a handful of requests, with the lowest line being the first >> > second div being dran) >> > >> > now due to being incorrect a user gave me rightfully a bug issue. I dug >> > deeper and ran the same example >> > against Mojarra, now Mojarra does cherry pick the delivered first div >> > and replaces the original div, and omits the second one. >> > The Problem is Mojarra just does it for newer browsers, it does the same >> > just updating the original element with the replacement code >> > (and hence producing a wandering div) for IE6+7- >> > >> > My question is, first, how to handle that problem correctly. Secondly, >> > is this even a problem for us or more one for the component author? >> > In the end the main problem would not exist if they ajax api could be >> > used on the component side properly without being enforced already into >> > an update (or to allow nested updates, inserts within an update) >> > >> > >> > Werner >> > >> > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces