On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:28 PM, David Geary <clarity.training(a)gmail.com <mailto:clarity.training@gmail.com>> wrote: Why would we show a diagram that we know is wrong? I'd also like to know if Invoke Application is part of the execute portion of the lifecycle. It has to be. That's got to be a typo. The very definition of execute is to invoke something.

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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Andy Schwartz <andy.schwartz(a)oracle.com&gt;wrote: > Dan Allen wrote On 5/24/2009 10:20 PM ET: > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:28 PM, David Geary <clarity.training(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: > >> >> Why would we show a diagram that we know is wrong? I'd also like to know >> if Invoke Application is part of the execute portion of the lifecycle. > > > It has to be. That's got to be a typo. The very definition of execute is > to invoke something. > > > I think the idea here is that we perform partial traversals of the > component tree and visit the "execute" ids during apply request values, > process validations and update model. Invoke application is slightly > different - we simply deliver events and invoke the application action > listener. No partial traversal of the component tree occurs. We should > clean up the wording in section 13.4.2 to make that clearer. > Ah, that makes sense. Invocations occur, but only the action listener of the target element...not anything just happened to be fired that would be discovered from a tree walk. Yes, if you clarify that statement, then I think folks will get it the first time. So my mistake for saying it is a typo. It just needs to be slightly reworded for clarity.

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