Re: [jsr-314-open] [ADMIN] Proposal Faces Managed Bean Annotations For Containers that implement Servlet 2.5 and Beyond

I'm 100% OK with supporting both options. As you know, I think, from a separate email, I currently have a small JSF2 app under development running on GlassFish v2. I *may* end up adding Seam to help solve from issues with security and JPA+transactions. I may throw in Guice. Who knows? I'm still just tinkering. For the time being, though, @ManagedBean is doing the trick for me (e.g., http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/bootstrapping-a-jsf-2-project/) <http://blogs.steeplesoft.com/bootstrapping-a-jsf-2-project/%29>;. It would be a shame to lose that. On Apr 6, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Dan Allen wrote: > > Leave the annotations in for the simple cases, and leverage the > EE6 stuff for the more complex. There's no good technical reason > to throw away the "low end" applications. > > > I would choose another word for "complex", perhaps "sophisticated" or > "refined". Other than that, I think we are in agreement as to the > scope of each option. I suggest we add non-normative text in the spec > that recommends for a complete DI and context management solution, > developers should be forward looking to JCDI. Of course, we can't say > when it will be available, but surely containers will start offering > it as a backport as Web Beans is doing. > > It's refreshing to me, as an application developer, to know that a > mature DI and context management solution is going to be available > without having to go outside of Java EE (e.g., Spring) to get it. > While we want to appeal to the entry-level users with @ManagedBean > and @ManagedProperty, we should also assure those more advanced users > that we have considered their needs as well. Hence the recommendation > for the non-normative text. > > -Dan > > -- > Dan Allen > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action > > http://mojavelinux.com > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Dan > > NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily > basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away > from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a > week, > it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was > caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if > you feel that it did not reach my attention. Jason Lee, SCJP Senior Java Developer, Sun Microsystems Mojarra and Mojarra Scales Dev Team https://mojarra.dev.java.net https://scales.dev.java.net http://blogs.steeplesoft.com