Here is the call in information for the meeting. Vienna Wednesday, July 7, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM UTC+2 hours CEST (Austria) London Wednesday, July 7, 2010 at 6:00:00 PM UTC+1 hour BST (U.K. - England) New York Wednesday, July 7, 2010 at 1:00:00 PM UTC-4 hours EDT (U.S.A. - New York) San Francisco Wednesday, July 7, 2010 at 10:00:00 AM UTC-7 hours PDT (U.S.A. - California) Toll Free US access number 1 866 682 4770 Conference code: 7821409 Password: 1409 Agenda: UIData, issues https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153 https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 Martin will lead the discussion of this meeting after I do the introductions and any other administrative issues.

On 7/7/10 14:25 , Jason Lee wrote: > I assume you mean July 14, unless you've invented time travel, in which > case our scheduling issues are a thing of the past! :) OOps, yes. Sorry about that. Here it is again. Vienna Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM UTC+2 hours CEST (Austria) London Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 6:00:00 PM UTC+1 hour BST (U.K. - England) New York Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 1:00:00 PM UTC-4 hours EDT (U.S.A. - New York) San Francisco Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 10:00:00 AM UTC-7 hours PDT (U.S.A. - California) Toll Free US access number 1 866 682 4770 Conference code: 7821409 Password: 1409 Agenda: UIData, issues https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153 https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 Martin will lead the discussion of this meeting after I do the introductions and any other administrative issues. Ed

Thanks Alexander - find below a slightly extended version of your document (sorry to put it in a mail, but I couldn´t edit the Google Doc). I didn´t find an issue for "supporting AJAX updates of single rows" - can you add this, so it doesn´t get lost? best regards, Martin JSF 2.1 iteration components. 1. Create root class ( interface ? ) for all iteration components: UIRepeat, UIDataTable,and, if possible, UISelectItems, and all similar third-party components ( lists, trees, grids, menus ) that iterate over its children. There would be class hierarchy similar to the ADF/trinidad: UICollection -- UIRepeater -- UIDataTable -- HtmlDataTable -- UIHierarchy .... (https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=322) 2. In addition to saving state of EditableValueHolder between iterations, save similar information for components that use internal fields during requests. That includes UIData/UIRepeat itself ( data model instance and saved states from children ), UIForm ( 'submitted' property ), and any other components that can require per-row states. Possible implementations: Lets components do it on its own by implementing IterationStateHolder interface with two methods saveIterationState/restoreIterationState. Using partial state to store per-row values in the same way as it is done between requests - this should be implemented in any case, partial state saving in a table right now does not work.( https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=545, https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153, 3. Support AJAX updates for a single row in iteration components, and allow AJAX requests from inside the table to find the table (getClientId wrongly returns the id of the row inside the client-id, see https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=865, duplicate of https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=738) 4. Move column rendering from dataTable to column component itself, to create custom column components that performs some logic ( for example, iterate over children components to create columns 'on the fly' like t:columns component does ) or customize column look and fell. DataTable should relay on "Column" interface instead of UIColumn component. ( related issues : https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=217, https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=225, https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=627 , https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=756) 5. Enhance data model to support Collection interface ( https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 , https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=713, https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=751), or use arbitrary key instead of simple row number, so developers would use database Primary Key's for JPA-based models. Custom keys also required by hierarchal components. Additional wish for UIData (not sure we want this?): https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=249 Facets should accept arbitrary attributes... best regards, Martin On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Alexander Smirnov <asmirnov(a)exadel.com&gt; wrote: > I've created Google document to bring all issues related to iteration > components together: > https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYeYG6io48XmZGZjanE1amtfMjY2M2puN3FnNg... > On 07/07/2010 11:43 AM, Edward Burns wrote: >> On 7/7/10 14:25 , Jason Lee wrote: >>> I assume you mean July 14, unless you've invented time travel, in which >>> case our scheduling issues are a thing of the past! :) >> >> OOps, yes. Sorry about that. >> >> Here it is again. >> >> >> Vienna Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM UTC+2 hours CEST >> (Austria) >> London Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 6:00:00 PM UTC+1 hour BST >> (U.K. - England) >> New York Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 1:00:00 PM UTC-4 hours EDT >> (U.S.A. - New York) >> San Francisco Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 10:00:00 AM UTC-7 hours PDT >> (U.S.A. - California) >> >> Toll Free US access number >> >> 1 866 682 4770 >> >> Conference code: 7821409 >> Password: 1409 >> >> Agenda: UIData, issues >> >> >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153 >> >> >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 >> >> >> Martin will lead the discussion of this meeting after I do the >> introductions and any other administrative issues. >> >> Ed >

Hi guys, are there problems with the conference system? I seem to be on hold - "leader has not joined". best regards, Martin On 7/14/10, Alexander Smirnov <asmirnov(a)exadel.com&gt; wrote: > I've updated document on Google docs. I don't know google accounts for > all EG members :-(, so I cannot properly setup writing permissions. > Google lets to invite any email account for collaboration, bu I doubt > that it can authorize third-party accounts... > > On 07/14/2010 07:55 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote: >> Thanks Alexander - find below a slightly extended version of your >> document (sorry to put it in a mail, but I couldn´t edit the Google >> Doc). I didn´t find an issue for "supporting AJAX updates of single >> rows" - can you add this, so it doesn´t get lost? >> >> best regards, >> >> Martin >> >> JSF 2.1 iteration components. >> >> 1. Create root class ( interface ? ) for all iteration components: >> UIRepeat, UIDataTable,and, if possible, UISelectItems, and all >> similar third-party components ( lists, trees, grids, menus ) that >> iterate over its children. There would be class hierarchy similar to >> the ADF/trinidad: >> UICollection >> -- UIRepeater >> -- UIDataTable >> -- HtmlDataTable >> -- UIHierarchy >> .... >> ( https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=322 ) >> >> 2. In addition to saving state of EditableValueHolder between >> iterations, save similar information for components that use internal >> fields during requests. That includes UIData/UIRepeat itself ( data >> model instance and saved states from children ), UIForm ( 'submitted' >> property ), and any other components that can require per-row states. >> Possible implementations: >> Lets components do it on its own by implementing IterationStateHolder >> interface with two methods saveIterationState/restoreIterationState. >> Using partial state to store per-row values in the same way as it is >> done between requests - this should be implemented in any case, >> partial state saving in a table right now does not work.( >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=545 , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153 , >> >> 3. Support AJAX updates for a single row in iteration components, and >> allow AJAX requests from inside the table to find the table >> (getClientId wrongly returns the id of the row inside the client-id, >> see >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=865 , >> duplicate of >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=738 ) >> >> 4. Move column rendering from dataTable to column component itself, to >> create custom column components that performs some logic ( for >> example, iterate over children components to create columns 'on the >> fly' like t:columns component does ) or customize column look and >> fell. DataTable should relay on "Column" interface instead of UIColumn >> component. ( related issues : >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=217 , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=225 , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=627 >> , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=756 ) >> >> 5. Enhance data model to support Collection interface ( >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 >> , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=713 , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=751 ), >> or use arbitrary key instead of simple row number, so developers would >> use database Primary Key's for JPA-based models. Custom keys also >> required by hierarchal components. >> >> Additional wish for UIData (not sure we want this?): >> >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=249 >> Facets should accept arbitrary attributes... >> >> best regards, >> >> Martin >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Alexander Smirnov < asmirnov(a)exadel.com&gt; >> wrote: >>> I've created Google document to bring all issues related to iteration >>> components together: >>> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYeYG6io48XmZGZjanE1amtfMjY2M2puN3FnNg... >>> On 07/07/2010 11:43 AM, Edward Burns wrote: >>>> On 7/7/10 14:25 , Jason Lee wrote: >>>>> I assume you mean July 14, unless you've invented time travel, in which >>>>> case our scheduling issues are a thing of the past! :) >>>> >>>> OOps, yes. Sorry about that. >>>> >>>> Here it is again. >>>> >>>> >>>> Vienna Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM UTC+2 hours CEST >>>> (Austria) >>>> London Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 6:00:00 PM UTC+1 hour BST >>>> (U.K. - England) >>>> New York Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 1:00:00 PM UTC-4 hours EDT >>>> (U.S.A. - New York) >>>> San Francisco Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 10:00:00 AM UTC-7 hours PDT >>>> (U.S.A. - California) >>>> >>>> Toll Free US access number >>>> >>>> 1 866 682 4770 >>>> >>>> Conference code: 7821409 >>>> Password: 1409 >>>> >>>> Agenda: UIData, issues >>>> >>>> >>>> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153 >>>> >>>> >>>> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 >>>> >>>> >>>> Martin will lead the discussion of this meeting after I do the >>>> introductions and any other administrative issues. >>>> >>>> Ed >>> >> >> >> > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces

Hi guys, are there problems with the conference system? I seem to be on hold - "leader has not joined". best regards, Martin On 7/14/10, Alexander Smirnov <asmirnov(a)exadel.com&gt; wrote: > I've updated document on Google docs. I don't know google accounts for > all EG members :-(, so I cannot properly setup writing permissions. > Google lets to invite any email account for collaboration, bu I doubt > that it can authorize third-party accounts... > > On 07/14/2010 07:55 AM, Martin Marinschek wrote: >> Thanks Alexander - find below a slightly extended version of your >> document (sorry to put it in a mail, but I couldn´t edit the Google >> Doc). I didn´t find an issue for "supporting AJAX updates of single >> rows" - can you add this, so it doesn´t get lost? >> >> best regards, >> >> Martin >> >> JSF 2.1 iteration components. >> >> 1. Create root class ( interface ? ) for all iteration components: >> UIRepeat, UIDataTable,and, if possible, UISelectItems, and all >> similar third-party components ( lists, trees, grids, menus ) that >> iterate over its children. There would be class hierarchy similar to >> the ADF/trinidad: >> UICollection >> -- UIRepeater >> -- UIDataTable >> -- HtmlDataTable >> -- UIHierarchy >> .... >> (https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=322) >> >> 2. In addition to saving state of EditableValueHolder between >> iterations, save similar information for components that use internal >> fields during requests. That includes UIData/UIRepeat itself ( data >> model instance and saved states from children ), UIForm ( 'submitted' >> property ), and any other components that can require per-row states. >> Possible implementations: >> Lets components do it on its own by implementing IterationStateHolder >> interface with two methods saveIterationState/restoreIterationState. >> Using partial state to store per-row values in the same way as it is >> done between requests - this should be implemented in any case, >> partial state saving in a table right now does not work.( >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=545, >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153, >> >> 3. Support AJAX updates for a single row in iteration components, and >> allow AJAX requests from inside the table to find the table >> (getClientId wrongly returns the id of the row inside the client-id, >> see >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=865, >> duplicate of >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=738) >> >> 4. Move column rendering from dataTable to column component itself, to >> create custom column components that performs some logic ( for >> example, iterate over children components to create columns 'on the >> fly' like t:columns component does ) or customize column look and >> fell. DataTable should relay on "Column" interface instead of UIColumn >> component. ( related issues : >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=217, >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=225, >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=627 >> , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=756) >> >> 5. Enhance data model to support Collection interface ( >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 >> , >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=713, >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=751), >> or use arbitrary key instead of simple row number, so developers would >> use database Primary Key's for JPA-based models. Custom keys also >> required by hierarchal components. >> >> Additional wish for UIData (not sure we want this?): >> >> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=249 >> Facets should accept arbitrary attributes... >> >> best regards, >> >> Martin >> >> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Alexander Smirnov <asmirnov(a)exadel.com&gt; >> wrote: >>> I've created Google document to bring all issues related to iteration >>> components together: >>> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYeYG6io48XmZGZjanE1amtfMjY2M2puN3FnNg... >>> On 07/07/2010 11:43 AM, Edward Burns wrote: >>>> On 7/7/10 14:25 , Jason Lee wrote: >>>>> I assume you mean July 14, unless you've invented time travel, in which >>>>> case our scheduling issues are a thing of the past! :) >>>> >>>> OOps, yes. Sorry about that. >>>> >>>> Here it is again. >>>> >>>> >>>> Vienna Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 7:00:00 PM UTC+2 hours CEST >>>> (Austria) >>>> London Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 6:00:00 PM UTC+1 hour BST >>>> (U.K. - England) >>>> New York Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 1:00:00 PM UTC-4 hours EDT >>>> (U.S.A. - New York) >>>> San Francisco Wednesday, July 14, 2010 at 10:00:00 AM UTC-7 hours PDT >>>> (U.S.A. - California) >>>> >>>> Toll Free US access number >>>> >>>> 1 866 682 4770 >>>> >>>> Conference code: 7821409 >>>> Password: 1409 >>>> >>>> Agenda: UIData, issues >>>> >>>> >>>> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=153 >>>> >>>> >>>> https://javaserverfaces-spec-public.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=479 >>>> >>>> >>>> Martin will lead the discussion of this meeting after I do the >>>> introductions and any other administrative issues. >>>> >>>> Ed >>> >> >> >> >