Tomorrow's meeting recording
by Antoine Sabot-Durand
Hi all,
As all of us won't be able to attend the meeting, it will be recorder for
further reference. Hence the meeting will take place on redhat Bluejeans
meeting service.
II've just added the url to the invitation.
If you want to attend and are not on the list please tell me and I'll add
you.
Antoine
8 years, 6 months
Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
by Werner Keil
As I don't have audio where I am during the day, only Friday (when I leave
earlier in most cases) would work for me.
Werner
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:13:54 +0000
> From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
> To: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>, Martin Kouba
> <mkouba(a)redhat.com>, Mark Struberg <struberg(a)yahoo.de>
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> So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
> meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
> I can do both but prefer Monday.
>
> What is your choice?
>
> Antoine
>
> Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com> a
> ?crit :
>
> > I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
> > areas of open discussion still:
> >
> > - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
> > agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.
> > - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
> > first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are
> > any concerns with that change.
> > - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
> > like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to make
> > sure we can bridge from existing)
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
> >>
> >> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
> >> presence is not required.
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
> >> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
> now
> >> > is the only day I have open.
> >> >
> >> > What about next week? Monday?
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com
> >> > <mailto:mkouba@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
> >> >
> >> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
> >> >
> >> > What I particularly dislike:
> >> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
> >> > * the concept of the context id
> >> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
> >> method/class
> >> > for each supported scope)
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll find
> >> out
> >> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
> >> believe we
> >> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
> >> complex
> >> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
> >> >
> >> > Martin
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> >> >
> >>
> http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_man...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
> >> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
> >> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
> >> > >
> >> > > LieGrue,
> >> > > strub
> >> > >
> >> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
> >> > <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net <mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net>>:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hi all,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
> >> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
> >> > >> https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am
> >> > this week.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Antoine
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 11:16:23 -0400
> From: "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting
> To: Antoine Sabot-Durand <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net>
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> Monday is better for me but I can do both.
> On Jun 21, 2016 11:14, "Antoine Sabot-Durand" <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net>
> wrote:
>
> > So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly
> > meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET.
> > I can do both but prefer Monday.
> >
> > What is your choice?
> >
> > Antoine
> >
> > Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com> a
> > ?crit :
> >
> >> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the
> >> areas of open discussion still:
> >>
> >> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in
> >> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO.
> >> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the
> >> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are
> >> any concerns with that change.
> >> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems
> >> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to
> make
> >> sure we can bridge from existing)
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-(
> >>>
> >>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my
> >>> presence is not required.
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
> >>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a):
> >>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of
> >>> now
> >>> > is the only day I have open.
> >>> >
> >>> > What about next week? Monday?
> >>> >
> >>> > John
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com
> >>> > <mailto:mkouba@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me.
> >>> >
> >>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-)
> >>> >
> >>> > What I particularly dislike:
> >>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread)
> >>> > * the concept of the context id
> >>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific
> >>> method/class
> >>> > for each supported scope)
> >>> >
> >>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll
> find
> >>> out
> >>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't
> >>> believe we
> >>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less
> >>> complex
> >>> > API (without sacrificing correctness).
> >>> >
> >>> > Martin
> >>> >
> >>> > [1]
> >>> >
> >>>
> http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_man...
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a):
> >>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST).
> >>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > LieGrue,
> >>> > > strub
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand
> >>> > <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net <mailto:antoine@sabot-durand.net>>:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Hi all,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's
> >>> > proposal regarding CDI-30:
> >>> > >> https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am
> >>> > this week.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Antoine
> >>> > >> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >> cdi-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> >>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev
> >>> > >>
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> >>> > (http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html). For all other
> >>> > ideas provided on this list, the provider waives all patent and
> >>> > other intellectual property rights inherent in such information.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > _______________________________________________
> >>> > > cdi-dev mailing list
> >>> > > cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:cdi-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> >>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev
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> >>> > other intellectual property rights inherent in such information.
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Martin Kouba
> >>> > Software Engineer
> >>> > Red Hat, Czech Republic
> >>> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > cdi-dev mailing list
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> >>> Software Engineer
> >>> Red Hat, Czech Republic
> >>>
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8 years, 6 months
CDI-30 hangout meeting
by Antoine Sabot-Durand
Hi all,
We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's proposal
regarding CDI-30:
https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291
I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am this week.
So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ?
Antoine
8 years, 6 months
EDR2 release date and content
by Antoine Sabot-Durand
Hi,
As planned, I'd like to release EDR2 before end of July, so we should
freeze API and spec around July 22nd (or before if possible).
This EDR will demonstrate at least new configurator API and new SE
Bootstrap. There are still open ticket on both features so we should
concentrate our work on them. I don't reject other features (context
control would be nice to have too), but I think we should @Inject the
required work to finish these 2 features before adding others.
Your feedback is welcome.
Antoine
8 years, 6 months
Canceling today's meeting
by Antoine Sabot-Durand
Hi Guys,
>From what I understand John and Mark won't be available for our meeting
(correct me if I'm wrong).
So perhaps we could postpone until the F2F meeting we'll have later this
week to deal with open PR.
BTW John could you give us your availability for such a meeting.
Thx,
Antoine
8 years, 6 months
New version for CDI bootstrap
by Antoine Sabot-Durand
Hi guys,
I posted modification on PR 290 [1] according to last meeting.
I still have 2 points that stays open for me (you may have more) :
- Place and name of the package: should we decide to package SE support in
a specific jar, it will be probably better to have a better package name at
a higher level
- Name for CDISE class. Perhaps using Container or SeContainer would be
better. WDYT ?
Antoine
[1] https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/290
8 years, 6 months
[JBoss JIRA] (CDI-616) Injection point declared as transient is not useful
by Stephan Knitelius (JIRA)
[ https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-616?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.sy... ]
Stephan Knitelius commented on CDI-616:
---------------------------------------
{quote}
Regarding transient fields. Could be useful to have non-normalscoped beans marked transient and manually resolve them from the BeanManager during deserialisation. This is perfectly legit.
{quote}
[~struberg] are you sure, I can't think of (m)any resonalbe usecases?
Never the less, my suggestion is:
* ERROR - when normal scoped injects are marked transient.
* WARNING - when non-normal scoped injects are marked transient.
> Injection point declared as transient is not useful
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: CDI-616
> URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-616
> Project: CDI Specification Issues
> Issue Type: Clarification
> Components: Concepts
> Affects Versions: 1.2.Final
> Environment: n/a
> Reporter: Emily Jiang
> Priority: Minor
>
> An injection point declared as 'transient' is not useful, due to the fact of after bean's passivation, the transient field will not be reinjected and its value will be lost. This causes confusion. See Weld forum discussion [link title|https://developer.jboss.org/thread/179486]. In the section 5.5.7, how about to make the following changes?
> The isTransient() method returns true if the injection point is a transient field, and
> false otherwise. If the injection point represents a dynamically obtained instance then the
> isTransient() method returns true if the Instance injection point is a transient field, and
> false otherwise.
> =>
> The isTransient() method returns true if the injection point is a transient field, and
> false otherwise. If the injection point represents a dynamically obtained instance then the
> isTransient() method returns true if the Instance injection point is a transient field, and
> false otherwise. If this injection point is declared as transient, after bean's passivation, the value will not be restored. Instance injection point is the preferred approach.
> Any other better suggestions?
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8 years, 6 months
[JBoss JIRA] (CDI-617) Instantly Ring @18oo-078.6054Norton technical support phone number, Norton customer service telephone number,
by Martin Kouba (JIRA)
[ https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-617?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.sy... ]
Martin Kouba deleted CDI-617:
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>
> Key: CDI-617
> URL: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/CDI-617
> Project: CDI Specification Issues
> Issue Type: Bug
> Reporter: fabiola luice
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