Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting

I can do Friday but not Monday. In the meanwhile, I'll go through the code changes to add any comments I have. Many thanks, Emily =========================== Emily Jiang WebSphere Application Server, CDI Development Lead MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278 Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB From: Werner Keil <werner.keil(a)gmail.com&gt; To: cdi-dev <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, Date: 21/06/2016 16:33 Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting Sent by: cdi-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org ------------------------------ As I don't have audio where I am during the day, only Friday (when I leave earlier in most cases) would work for me. Werner On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 5:16 PM, <*cdi-dev-request(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; wrote: Send cdi-dev mailing list submissions to *cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit *https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev* <https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to *cdi-dev-request(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; You can reach the person managing the list at *cdi-dev-owner(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev-owner(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cdi-dev digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: CDI-30 hangout meeting (Antoine Sabot-Durand) 2. Re: CDI-30 hangout meeting (John D. Ament) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 15:13:54 +0000 From: Antoine Sabot-Durand <*antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting To: "John D. Ament" <*john.d.ament(a)gmail.com* <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;, Martin Kouba <*mkouba(a)redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt;, Mark Struberg < *struberg(a)yahoo.de* <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt;&gt; Cc: cdi-dev <*cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; Message-ID: <CABu-YBQL7c_BUkBuZztSvnL4yrih4k5Vtvbz_-jf1K= *z1n2gjQ(a)mail.gmail.com* <z1n2gjQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET. I can do both but prefer Monday. What is your choice? Antoine Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <*john.d.ament(a)gmail.com* <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; a ?crit : > I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the > areas of open discussion still: > > - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in > agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO. > - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the > first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are > any concerns with that change. > - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems > like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to make > sure we can bridge from existing) > > John > > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba(a)redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > >> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-( >> >> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my >> presence is not required. >> >> Martin >> >> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a): >> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of now >> > is the only day I have open. >> > >> > What about next week? Monday? >> > >> > John >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba(a)redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > <mailto:*mkouba@redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >> > >> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me. >> > >> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-) >> > >> > What I particularly dislike: >> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread) >> > * the concept of the context id >> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific >> method/class >> > for each supported scope) >> > >> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll find >> out >> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't >> believe we >> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less >> complex >> > API (without sacrificing correctness). >> > >> > Martin >> > >> > [1] >> > >> *http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts* <http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_man... >> > >> > >> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a): >> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST). >> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks. >> > > >> > > LieGrue, >> > > strub >> > > >> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand >> > <*antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt; <mailto: *antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt;&gt;&gt;: >> > >> >> > >> Hi all, >> > >> >> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's >> > proposal regarding CDI-30: >> > >> *https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291* <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291> >> > >> >> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am >> > this week. >> > >> >> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ? >> > >> >> > >> Antoine >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> cdi-dev mailing list >> > >> *cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto: *cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >> > >> *https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev* <https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev> >> > >> >> > >> Note that for all code provided on this list, the provider >> > licenses the code under the Apache License, Version 2 >> > (*http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html* <http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html>). 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Ament" <*john.d.ament(a)gmail.com* <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] CDI-30 hangout meeting To: Antoine Sabot-Durand <*antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt;&gt; Cc: *cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Message-ID: < *CAOqetn_3uk-WxjhT438TFueB3_fYnXQfmw+NHpFrZ2BZ3ZJBXw(a)mail.gmail.com* <CAOqetn_3uk-WxjhT438TFueB3_fYnXQfmw%2BNHpFrZ2BZ3ZJBXw(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Monday is better for me but I can do both. On Jun 21, 2016 11:14, "Antoine Sabot-Durand" <*antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt;&gt; wrote: > So choices are Friday 24th 5:00 pm CET (same timeslot than our weekly > meeting) or Monday 27th 5:00pm CET. > I can do both but prefer Monday. > > What is your choice? > > Antoine > > Le mar. 21 juin 2016 ? 16:35, John D. Ament <*john.d.ament(a)gmail.com* <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; a > ?crit : > >> I just went through the PR one more time. It seems like these are the >> areas of open discussion still: >> >> - The name of the class "ActiveContext" needs to be decided. I'm in >> agreement its a bad name, but switching to past tense doesn't help IMHO. >> - Disassociating the thread model and the context model. This is the >> first change that supports this initiative, so I'm not sure if there are >> any concerns with that change. >> - The fact that contexts have IDs. To me it makes sense, but it seems >> like this is not generally agreed (we need some unique identifier to make >> sure we can bridge from existing) >> >> John >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba(a)redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt; wrote: >> >>> I'm on PTO until Jun 29 :-( >>> >>> However, we've already discussed this with Antoine so I think my >>> presence is not required. >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> Dne 21.6.2016 v 16:23 John D. Ament napsal(a): >>> > Unfortunately, my schedule's turned south this week and Friday as of >>> now >>> > is the only day I have open. >>> > >>> > What about next week? Monday? >>> > >>> > John >>> > >>> > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 4:42 AM Martin Kouba <*mkouba(a)redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt; >>> > <mailto:*mkouba@redhat.com* <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >>> > >>> > Any day except for Friday is ok for me. >>> > >>> > I have a feeling that it will be a tough discussion ;-) >>> > >>> > What I particularly dislike: >>> > * ActiveContext.associate(Thread thread) >>> > * the concept of the context id >>> > * scopeType as a method param (I would prefer a specific >>> method/class >>> > for each supported scope) >>> > >>> > Anyway, if you look at Weld Context Management API [1] you'll find >>> out >>> > that it's pretty powerful but also quite complex. And I don't >>> believe we >>> > will be able to achieve the same level of funcionality with less >>> complex >>> > API (without sacrificing correctness). >>> > >>> > Martin >>> > >>> > [1] >>> > >>> *http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_managing_the_built_in_contexts* <http://docs.jboss.org/weld/reference/latest/en-US/html/contexts.html#_man... >>> > >>> > >>> > Dne 21.6.2016 v 09:22 Mark Struberg napsal(a): >>> > > Somewhen this week in the evening (CEST). >>> > > I?ll have a low availability for the following 2 weeks. >>> > > >>> > > LieGrue, >>> > > strub >>> > > >>> > >> Am 20.06.2016 um 16:55 schrieb Antoine Sabot-Durand >>> > <*antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt; <mailto: *antoine(a)sabot-durand.net* <antoine(a)sabot-durand.net&gt;&gt;&gt;: >>> > >> >>> > >> Hi all, >>> > >> >>> > >> We launched the idea to organize a meeting regarding John's >>> > proposal regarding CDI-30: >>> > >> *https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291* <https://github.com/cdi-spec/cdi/pull/291> >>> > >> >>> > >> I wasn't available last week (going to a conference) but I am >>> > this week. >>> > >> >>> > >> So what are your favorite slots for this meeting ? >>> > >> >>> > >> Antoine >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> cdi-dev mailing list >>> > >> *cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; <mailto: *cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org* <cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; >>> > >> *https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev* <https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev> >>> > >> >>> > >> Note that for all code provided on this list, the provider >>> > licenses the code under the Apache License, Version 2 >>> > (*http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html* <http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html>). 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