Re: [cdi-dev] where is defined javax.enterprise.context.conversation.id?

As far as I've understood after reading 7.6 [1] dots are only allowed if either the dot or the whole variable name is quoted a\.b = 42 or 'a.b' = 42 but a.b = 42 is illegal. The spec also only says that the BEAN must have this very name and not that the bean must be accessible by EL.

If we would really require this and the EL specification doesn't support it, then the CDI spec would contradict the EL spec, right?

LieGrue, strub [1] http://www.ecma-international.org/ecma-262/5.1/#sec-7.6 > On Friday, 2 January 2015, 16:11, Mark Struberg <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt; wrote: >> but 'dot notation' in ECMAScript means that the dot is used to access > properties of a variable: > > > myvar.x is just another way to access > > myvar["x"] > And of course variables inside a variable [1]. > > > Otoh I've found no explicit statement that dots are disallowed neither. > > LieGrue, > strub > > > [1] http://www.ecma-international.org/ecma-262/5.1/#sec-11.2.1 > > > On Friday, 2 January 2015, 15:30, John D. Ament <john.d.ament(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > >> >> As far as I know, dots are allowed in ECMAScript, under dot notation. >> >> >> On Fri Jan 02 2015 at 9:17:38 AM Mark Struberg <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt; > wrote: >> Folks, I fear there is another issue: >>> >>> Are dots in EL names even allowed? I think not. >>> >>> Please read up EL-3.0 >>> >>> 1.6 Operators [] and . >>> The EL follows ECMAScript in unifying the treatment of the . and [] > operators. >>> And in ECMAScript dots are afaik _not_ allowed in names! >>> >>> >>> If it works in some implementations then that is fine, but it is not > required by the spec -> non portable. We must not require this in CDI! >>> Gonna ping the servlet EG to get this confirmed. >>> >>> >>> >>> LieGrue, >>> strub >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Friday, 2 January 2015, 12:50, Mark Struberg > <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt; wrote: >>>> > Forget it, I found it. Maybe I had some typo in my grep... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> LieGrue, >>>> strub >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Friday, 2 January 2015, 11:59, Mark Struberg > <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>>> > I've grepped all the cdi spec project and this string > doesn't >>>> appear. >>>>> When did this got added? >>>>> >>>>> LieGrue, >>>>> strub >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, 2 January 2015, 8:15, Tomas Remes > <tremes(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've checked the related TCK test and it seems to me > valid. In CDI >>>> spec >>>>>> there is: >>>>>> >>>>>> "6.7.5. The Conversation interface >>>>>> The container provides a built-in bean with bean type > Conversation , >>>> scope >>>>>> @RequestScoped , >>>>>> and qualifier @Default , named > javax.enterprise.context.conversation >>>>> ." >>>>>> Tom >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mark Struberg" <struberg(a)yahoo.de&gt; >>>>>> To: "Antonio Goncalves" > <antonio.goncalves(a)gmail.com&gt;, >>>>>> "Romain Manni-Bucau" > <rmannibucau(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>> Cc: cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:57:28 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [cdi-dev] where is defined >>>>>> javax.enterprise.context.conversation.id? >>>>>> >>>>>> cid is a different thing. But I did nowhere (spec and > api) find the >>>> one >>>>>> mentioned by Romain. >>>>>> So I think it's not specified and we need to exclude > this test. >>>>>> LieGrue, >>>>>> strub >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, 29 December 2014, 21:41, Antonio Goncalves >>>>>> <antonio.goncalves(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nothing in JSF nor in Servlet, but in CDI 1.2 > Specification : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6.7.4. Conversation context lifecycle >>>>>>> (...) >>>>>>> The long-running conversation associated with a >>>>>>> request may be propagated to any Servlet request via > use of a >>>> request >>>>>> parameter named cid >>>>>>> containing the unique identifier of the conversation. > In this >>>> case, the >>>>>> application must manage this >>>>>>> request parameter. >>>>>>> (...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is accomplished via use of a request parameter > named cid >>>>> containing the >>>>>> unique >>>>>>> identifier of the conversation. >>>>>>> (...) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>> <rmannibucau(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>>> didnt find in CDI and JSF PDFs where is defined >>>>>>>> > "javax.enterprise.context.conversation.id". Seems it >>>>> should be >>>>>>>> available in ELs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you have any pointer please? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau >>>>>>>> @rmannibucau >>>>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com >>>>>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com >>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> cdi-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Note that for all code provided on this list, the > provider >>>> licenses >>>>> the >>>>>> code under the Apache License, Version 2 >>>>>> (http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html). 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