Re: [cdi-dev] CDI have any plan to process Transaction?

Thanks Dan :-) http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TransactionsForManagedBeans On 30 Apr 2012, at 20:42, Dan Allen wrote: > I molded this into a mini blog. Pete, if you are interested, feel free to post this as it will likely solve a wider misunderstanding from going around: > > "A standard, universal @Transactional annotation is coming in Java EE 7. However, there are some important things to keep in mind: > > - @Transactional *is* being developed as a revision to the JTA spec (as an MR) > - @Transactional *is not* being developed by the CDI EG, nor will it be in the CDI spec > - Feedback on @Transactional should be sent to the Java EE platform EG *not* to the CDI EG. The platform EG is conducting the revision to the JTA spec. > > Java EE does not recognize a Servlet container as a compliant environment and therefore this feature will not be available there by default (mainly due to the absence of JTA in this environemnt). > > However, to bridge the divide, Weld and OpenWebBeans will both likely offer support for @Transactional in a Servlet environment since we acknowledge that it *is* important, and is an environment preferred by many developers (but we still strongly urge you to migrate to the web profile!!)." > > -Dan > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 04:55, Pete Muir<pmuir(a)redhat.com> wrote: > Just to be 100% clear, as there is a lot of confusion around this topic. > > * @Transactional *IS NOT* being developed by the CDI EG nor will it be in the CDI spec > * @Transactional *IS* being developed as a revision to the JTA spec (as a MR IIRC, but that was not my/our decision to make) > * Feedback on @Trasnactional should be sent to the Java EE platform EG NOT to the CDI EG. The platform EG is conducting the revision to the JTA spec. > > HTH! > > On 30 Apr 2012, at 09:19, Pete Muir wrote: > >> On 29 Apr 2012, at 23:12, Dan Allen wrote: >> >>> Am I correct in saying that the annotation will control JTA >> Yes, this will be an amendment to the JTA spec AIUI. So back where it belongs! >> >>> and work in either of the two profiles (web and full)? >> We haven't discussed this, but I'm assuming both. I will raise this. >> >>> Btw, Java EE does not recognize a Servlet container as a compliant environment and therefore this feature will not be available there (without special support for it). >> Correct. Main obstacle is actually a lack of JTA there, rather than the declarative control… But I think OWB and Weld will both offer something here as we all regard it as important! >> >>> I agree with this stance since the web profile should be recognized as the low end environment. Otherwise there is not enough core services to provide a dependable and portable programming model. If you (general audience) want to use a Servlet container, you aren't using Java EE and will have to supplement with addons like CDI extensions or Spring. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my CyanogenMod-powered >>> Android device, an open platform for >>> carriers, developers and consumers. >>> >>> On Apr 27, 2012 4:54 AM, "Pete Muir"<pmuir(a)redhat.com> wrote: >>> Java EE 7 will include @Transactional. This will be provided by the Java EE platform, rather than CDI specifically. It will be a CDI interceptor, and so enabled as other CDI interceptors are. >>> >>> On 24 Apr 2012, at 09:10, Hantsy Bai wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have read some content about the spec 1.1, but I want to know if there >>>> is a plan to provide a new transaction annotation...for EBJ or none EJB >>>> proramming. >>>> >>>> For example, provide a @Transactional annotation like Seam2 or Spring >>>> 3.1...and make it work in Servlet container(none JTA transation, jdbc >>>> only) or full profile container such as JBoss, Glassfish(JTA transaction >>>> by default) seamlessly. >>>> >>>> Automatically detect the Transaction will be used, or configure in >>>> beans.xml file. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Hantsy >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> cdi-dev mailing list >>>> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> cdi-dev mailing list >>> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> cdi-dev mailing list >> cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev > > > > -- > Dan Allen > Principal Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action > Registered Linux User #231597 > > http://google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen > http://mojavelinux.com > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > _______________________________________________ cdi-dev mailing list cdi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/cdi-dev