Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up

Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up

I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is not possible. All the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the search dialog. Moreover, all of this code is unfortunately in internal packages with restricted access so it's not even possible to do any dirty tricks. Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It doesn't solve the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though… Cheers, Koen Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven: > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ? That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :) On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen < max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers, > > > > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the > > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually > > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j). > > How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :) > > > It would be nice if we have something like > > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly > > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way, > > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging > > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we > > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the > > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an > > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here. > > Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, > perspectives and wizards. > > I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to > register all forge operations as commands... > > one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in > xml so they can be loaded without > loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently > has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading. > > > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI > > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ? > > As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space > i'm fine :) > > > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to > > display these Wizards ? > > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up > when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ? > > > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on > > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an > > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the > plugin.xml). > > The latest code can be found in > > > https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t... > > -- > /max > _______________________________________________ > forge-dev mailing list > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." _______________________________________________ forge-dev mailing list forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev _______________________________________________ forge-dev mailing list forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev

The registered commands that bring up the current Forge popups already appear in the Quick Access by default. And surely there is a good amount of code that can be reused to improve the looks of the current popup. Cheers, Koen Op 30-mei-2013, om 17:01 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende geschreven: We can add one item to the Quick Access that brings up the Forge Menu. WDYT? Also, can we re-use any of that internal quick-access code to make our lives easier? On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Koen Aers <koen.aers(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > I have actually looked into this and tapping into the Quick Access is not > possible. All the providers that contribute to this are hardcoded into the > search dialog. Moreover, all of this code is unfortunately in internal > packages with restricted access so it's not even possible to do any dirty > tricks. > Mimic the Cmd+3 popup style seems the most reasonable thing to do. It > doesn't solve the issue of Forge not being easily spotted though… > > Cheers, > Koen > > Op 30-mei-2013, om 16:06 heeft Lincoln Baxter, III het volgende > geschreven: > > > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show > up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ? > > That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how > to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for > that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :) > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen < > max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers, >> > >> > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the >> > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually >> > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j). >> >> How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :) >> >> > It would be nice if we have something like >> > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly >> > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way, >> > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging >> > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we >> > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the >> > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an >> > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here. >> >> Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, >> perspectives and wizards. >> >> I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to >> register all forge operations as commands... >> >> one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in >> xml so they can be loaded without >> loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently >> has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading. >> >> > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI >> > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ? >> >> As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more >> space i'm fine :) >> >> > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to >> > display these Wizards ? >> >> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show >> up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ? >> >> > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on >> > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an >> > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the >> plugin.xml). >> > The latest code can be found in >> > >> https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t... >> >> -- >> /max >> _______________________________________________ >> forge-dev mailing list >> forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev >> > > > > -- > Lincoln Baxter, III > http://ocpsoft.org > "Simpler is better." > _______________________________________________ > forge-dev mailing list > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > forge-dev mailing list > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better." _______________________________________________ forge-dev mailing list forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev _______________________________________________ forge-dev mailing list forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev

> Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ? That's what we want to do, but I think George is looking for ideas on how to get started with that. Regarding lazy loading, we have some ideas for that, but we have some other priority architectural items to do first :)

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen < max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi Max and forge-dev subscribers, > > > > I was discussing with Lincoln and we reached an agreement that the > > current popup list that shows in the center of the IDE is not visually > > that nice ( http://imgur.com/JvE8a9j). > > How about fixing it so it becomes nice ? :) > > > It would be nice if we have something like > > http://i.imgur.com/LyibyTP.png, however I recall that Max explicitly > > mentioned that the Quick Access feature should not be used in any way, > > but that we might have something like that available. I've been digging > > into the Eclipse API and also found no way to reuse that, unless we > > (somehow) register the wizards dinamically using the > > "org.eclipse.ui.newWizards" extension point, but since I am not an > > Eclipse expert, I may be missing something here. > > Yes, it is iterating eclipse UI constructs, things like commands, views, > perspectives and wizards. > > I don't think its a good thing nor know if it is even possible to register > all forge operations as commands... > > one requirement of commands I beleive is that they should be defined in > xml so they can be loaded without > loading the plugin before command is actually executed. Forge currently > has so notion - everything is loaded; no lazy loading. > > > My question is: Does it looks like a reasonable option to develop an UI > > in the Forge 2 Eclipse plugin like Quick Access ? > > As long as you dont require it to be in the menu bar taking up more space > i'm fine :) > > > Do you guys see any other much attractive UI option in Eclipse to > > display these Wizards ? > > Cmd+3 was and is pretty - why not just mimic its UI and have that show up > when pressing the command shortcut for Forge ? > > > Just reminding that these wizards are dynamic (they are built based on > > the Addons installed in Forge 2), therefore they don't exist as an > > Wizard class (hence not allowing adding them directly into the > plugin.xml). > > The latest code can be found in > > > https://github.com/forge/jbosstools-forge/tree/master/plugins/org.jboss.t... > > -- > /max > _______________________________________________ > forge-dev mailing list > forge-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/forge-dev > -- Lincoln Baxter, III http://ocpsoft.org "Simpler is better."

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