CC: Max Andersen & Alexey Kazakov On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Ilya Buziuk <ibuziuk(a)redhat.com <mailto:ibuziuk@redhat.com>> wrote: Actually, we planned to remove xulrunner and deprecate VPE some time ago and leave only VPV as a WYSIWYG html editor. However, as soon as we gave a shout out about this on tools.jboss.org <http://tools.jboss.org> the first comment was: Nice. The reason I used JBoss Tools was the Visual Editor for JSF, especially for the Visual parts, which was not perfect but was good enough to have it. Will you have alternatives for that ? [1] It was decided that we need to slow down with this process. I can not say if it is a high time for doing this assuming that some people actually use it. Furthermore, some people treat it as a killer feature for JSF that only one IDE is providing. So, we need to think twice before doing it. [1] http://tools.jboss.org/blog/2015-04-02-devstudio-8.1.0.GA-for-luna.html <http://tools.jboss.org/blog/2015-04-02-devstudio-8.1.0.GA-for-luna.html> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Nick Boldt <nboldt(a)redhat.com <mailto:nboldt@redhat.com>> wrote: On the Eclipse team call today, the question of why we need Xulrunner was brought up again. As I understand it, the only reason we still include Xulrunner is for the Visual Page Editor. But Alex pointed out today that Xulrunner only works on GTK2, which means a user has to explicity disable GTK3 in order for Xulrunner to be used, as these days GTK3 is the default OOTB implementation on the platforms we support (Fedora 24/25, RHEL7, etc.). So... is it time to remove Xulrunner from the Devstudio dependencies, if most people are not even seeing it used? Alex suggested it might be useful to set up a call to discuss this in more depth. Is there a good time tomorrow or Friday you guys would like to meet to discuss this, if it can't be resolved asynchronously via email? Whatever we decide here, we should make sure we announce this on the jbosstools-dev@ list. -- Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio http://nick.divbyzero.com