[jbosstools-dev] Eclipse process vs just OSS RE: Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools?

Hi Michael Just want to add that Eclipse is regarded by some as some overhead. Maybe simple explanation and success example can show that it s easy. (Especially with cases when code/interactions continues to be on GitHub) And that would be one more nice addition to what is missing on eclipse.org site. Contributing on GitHub I myself ran into situation when PR are not even commented for a month or two. Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 12:35:29 +0200 From: mistria(a)redhat.com To: paul.verest(a)live.com; angelo.zerr(a)gmail.com CC: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Nodeclipse IDE (or components) in JBoss Tools? Hi Paul, On 05/20/2014 12:09 PM, Paul Verest wrote: I suggest to lobby that Eclipse would recognize non-Eclipse.org projects under EPL license as valuable part of Eclipse eco-system MarketPlace was done to fulfill this goal and it works pretty well. Some non Eclipse.org project have been pretty successful thanks to MarketPlace and MarketPlace client. I think those should thank the Foundation for that. that Eclipse project committers should be aware of, give and take help. e.g. https://github.com/eclipse-color-theme/eclipse-color-theme The issue with the multiplication of projects out of Eclipse.org is that you end up with different process to contribute and don't have the guarantee a contribution would be appreciated and considered. Being on GitHub is not a proof of an open development process, it's "just" OSS code. That's why it makes sense for contributors/consumers (like us) to encourage projects to become official Eclipse projects. Eclipse Foundation has set up rules that ensure a really open development process and that guarantee that a project can't be locked, and that encourage contributions over forks. It makes things safer. Something like open letter from Eclipse Foundation to Eclipse plugins authors. That's probably a good idea. Maybe the Foundation (or the community in general) should make it more official that projects on GitHub/MarketPlace are welcome to become official Eclipse projects and explain to authors that being an Eclipse.org project is a sign of real openness and a generator of success. But in any way, I can fully understand from the Foundation POV and from our "consumer" POV, that there is and will always be a distinction between Eclipse.org and non-Eclipse.org projects. The Foundation rules are definitely something good, that make a difference. Please also help to connect to Red Hat China managers or marketing. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in Red Hat office in China. Maybe Rob (Stryker) can help. @Angelo Would this email get into jbosstools-dev list? Yes, it's on. And this answer too. Check you CC list before sending mails ;) -- Mickael Istria Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat My blog - My Tweets