I will have to give it a try after we get back from Berlin. Thanks, Burr ----- Original Message ----- From: jbossws-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org <jbossws-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; To: jbossws-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <jbossws-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Sent: Thu Nov 16 07:26:34 2006 Subject: [jbossws-dev] [Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: Tcp Monitor liketool for jboss I probably I didn't correctly understand what Burr is saying. I try to answer, just to understand better what are his doubts about: anonymous wrote : | I actually demo the use of tcpmon since I think it is such a vital tool | for "debugging". The basic idea is that you find a consumer and | producer that are happy with each other and capture the SOAP | conversation (e.g. .NET to .NET) then run your Java to .NET to see what | the problem might be. | And this is the same idea of Lms. Note that clients have to change the address used to invoke webservice, it isn't a transparent proxy. anonymous wrote : | With that said, I don't believe a web-based application will serve me | properly. I like the really little swing-based tcpmon. I've seen other | presenters talk about using it for hacking websites. You can intercept | the flow of track between the browser and the server and figure out if | they are using any hidden fields to carry important information (e.g. | the price of an item being placed in a shopping cart). | I didn't understand what is the real difference between a swing gui and a web based gui in that. It was realy useful for us to debug service call by remote client that could only send request to our internet exposed machine (dmz) where I haven't X server configured (and I don't want one) Speaking of security: I think there are more interesting malicious sw around the world than a web based tcp monitor, and I think a malicious use of Lms isn't different than a malicious use of tcp mon. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3986510#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a... _______________________________________________ jbossws-dev mailing list jbossws-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbossws-dev