Re: [jsr-314-open] first post on jsr-314-public
by Ed Burns
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:59:29 -0800, Jim Driscoll <Jim.Driscoll(a)Sun.COM> said:
JD> And on that note - I'd like to get those posts sent to me as email. I
JD> know from hard experience that that's the best way for me to ensure that
JD> I see all of them.
JD> In fact, I'd like to get every EG member to have those posts sent to
JD> them as email, for the same reason.
JD> I note that I didn't get this one as an email. How do I change this?
JD> Are the other EG members amenable to also receiving more email?
I absolutely MUST receive my 314 discussion content as email.
Ed
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Re: [jsr-314-open] first post on jsr-314-public
by Ed Burns
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:09:49 -0500, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com> said:
DA> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Lincoln Baxter III <lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com
>> wrote:
>> I'm fine with explaining that it's there for voiced opinions, but tell me
>> again, is this something that will be resolved and synced to a mailing list
>> once we get all of that sorted out?
>>
DA> I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Could you clarify the question?
DA> Sorry, maybe just too much egg nog (wait, it was Ed that was drinking the
DA> egg nog).
And I may drink more tonight if I figure out the cause of this
ContextualCompositeMethodExpression bug I'm experiencing when trying to
verify my exam questions actually test stuff that works.
Ed
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Re: [jsr-314-open] getting behind CDI
by Lincoln Baxter, III
It made it, welcome!
Lincoln Baxter III
http://ocpsoft.com
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Keep it simple.
On Dec 17, 2009 12:28 PM, "Matthias Wessendorf" <
matthias.wessendorf(a)oracle.com> wrote:
Dan Allen wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Lincoln Baxter, III <
lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com <mailto:lincolnb...
+1 on that sentence;
(Note that I am not sure if the mail will get through, but sometimes I feel
to comment on an email ... ;-) )
> > -Dan > > -- > Dan Allen > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of
Seam in Action > Regi...
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[jsr-314-open] first post on jsr-314-public
by Dan Allen
We have our first post on jsr-314-public by a community member (okay, so he
is an EG member on JSR-299, but it still counts).
http://wiki.jcp.org/boards/index.php?t=3049
Not to give you guys more work, but occasionally we need to monitor this
forum and decide if we want to "pick up" and issue and bring it into design.
Here's how I think the process will go:
1. Get clarification from community about the issue (if necessary).
2. Post that we have taken this up as an issue for design in the EG (they
can follow as an observer, unless of course they have post access)
Naturally with two places to discuss, there is the risk of creating parallel
threads. Just remember that the public forums are there for two reasons:
1. To allow the public to notify us of a deficiency in the spec or a feature
request
2. To allow community members to discuss amongst themselves
It's a public forum. So they should do most of the talking and we do most of
the listening ;)
If you have other ideas about how it should go, please share it. I'm just
laying out my perspective here.
-Dan
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Re: [jsr-314-open] getting behind CDI
by Lincoln Baxter, III
Thanks for posting this Dan. Its been on my to do list, but as usual, you've
summed up the points thoroughly and clearly. I am 100% on board with
acknowledging / deprecating the jsf built-in managed bean facility in favor
of a platform feature. IMO, jsf is crippled without a full DI container.
+1
Lincoln Baxter III
http://ocpsoft.com
http://scrumshark.com
Keep it simple.
On Dec 17, 2009 11:39 AM, "Dan Allen" <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Isn't it easier just to get started with JSF 2 along?
^ alone
-- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
Registered Linux User #2...
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Re: [jsr-314-open] [ADMIN] JSF Wikipedia Page
by Ed Burns
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:35:10 -0500, Lincoln Baxter III <lincolnbaxter(a)gmail.com> said:
LB> Definitely.
LB> We discussed the potential issues that might arise from this at our
LB> meeting at JSFSummit - we agreed it's worth fighting for, but
LB> acknowledge that there may come a time where we have (misguided ;) legal
LB> opposition. The current stance is, "we're trying to benefit the JSF
LB> community, which benefits SUN, so lets try it and see what happens."
LB> Ed, please correct me if I've mis-spoken.
I'll review it when I get a moment away from the exam writing.
Ed
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[jsr-314-open] [ADMIN] JSF Wikipedia Page
by Lincoln Baxter III
I've taken the liberty of updating the JSF page on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaServer_Faces
I don't know how many of you have read it, but it was atrocious:
horrible grammar, entire paragraphs that added almost no value (or
should have been included in a section for "details nobody needs to
know,") and generally too much text that said too little.
Notably, I removed the comparison to other frameworks because it was
rather uninformative (save the .net version) These features can be
pulled back in, if we deem them to be accurate and beneficial to the
audience (which on wikipedia, should be considered, "interested
academics and business researchers",) so such a comparison may be
valuable, but I assert that we should re-evaluate the manner in which is
it done. The focus should be on JSF, not the other frameworks. (This
section was almost as long as the rest of the article.)
I've moved the focus from JSF1 to JSF2, while still keeping some
references to JSF1 functionality. JSF2 is the new standard, and I've
made that clear.
Please feel free to add/update - it is our responsibility as the experts
to make sure that the correct knowledge is on here. My focus is on
clarity and understanding, but if someone more technical wants to
elaborate on anything I've done, or add new information, go ahead, and
I'll try to make sure it lays out well and flows intuitively.
You can see all my changes here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=JavaServer_Faces&action=history...
Thanks,
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Lincoln Baxter, III
http://ocpsoft.com
http://scrumshark.com
"Keep it Simple"
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