EB> That being said, we can categorize issues in 4 circles: EB> - must have EB> - should have I'd like to have <https://hibernate.onjira.com/browse/BVAL-250> in there. If no ValidationMessages.properties file, perhaps fall back to consulting whatever ends up beind the value of the <message-bundle> config value. Ed -- | edward.burns(a)oracle.com | office: +1 407 458 0017 | homepage: | http://ridingthecrest.com/