Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Console 1.1.0 Update

For this kind of issue over the years I have seen the following kinds of complaints about our distributions: - - Download too large. - Server to slow to start. - First access to X to slow. - Too many downloads to choose from and too many downloads for us to maintain. I don't know if you ever get this complete set resolved ;-) Regards, Darran Lofthouse. On 03/30/2012 10:57 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: > Personally I would prefer a slim AS and only English. For better or > worse, English is the defacto language of the Internet, Computer Science > etc. The console is an expert tool and I would be surprised to find a > person that would both a) know what to do with the console and b) not > understand the English used. > > Of course there might be political reasons for multi-language support > etc, just my 2c... > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com > <mailto:hbraun@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > guess that one is for the nerds list, right? > > > On Mar 30, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Carlo de Wolf wrote: > >> Or we could make the notion of a package manager a first class > citizen >> in AS 7 and let it handle different downloadable setups. >> >> For example the one Jaikiran wrote some time back: >> https://github.com/wolfc/jboss-package-manager >> (Given that rpms are not everywhere ;-) ) >> >> Carlo >> >> On 03/30/2012 11:28 AM, Darran Lofthouse wrote: >>> Is there no alternative for us to do some form of just in time >>> processing for the languages as the resources are served? We have >>> complete control of the HTTP server if we needed to insert something >>> additional there. >>> >>> Alternatively I do see now why many companies offer different > localized >>> downloads now - as an alternative could we provide alternative > downloads >>> to add support for different languages to your AS installation. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Darran Lofthouse. >>> >>> >>> On 03/30/2012 10:23 AM, Tomaz Cerar wrote: >>>> The thing is that GTW does permutation of user-agent / language >>>> That means if we support 6 languages and 7 user-agents we get 42 >>>> permutations. Every permutation Is 1.2mb (IIRC) that gives you > the big >>>> size... >>>> >>>> Maybe we can skip some old and obscure useragents? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> tomaz >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: jboss-as7-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org> >>>> [mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev-bounces@lists.jboss.org>] On Behalf Of Heiko Braun >>>> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:16 AM >>>> To: Benjamin Browning >>>> Cc: jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> Development >>>> Subject: Re: [jboss-as7-dev] Console 1.1.0 Update >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> let me check what's going on. additional languages are one > explanation, >>>> but there must be something else that doesn't belong here. >>>> >>>> >>>> ike >>>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Browning wrote: >>>> >>>>> I brought this up in #jboss-as7 a while back after being > baffled at how >>>> much larger AS 7.1.1 was than 7.1.0. Apparently it's all GWT > permutations >>>> or something silly. >>>>> If we translate the console into a few more languages all the GWT >>>>> permutations may soon surpass the size of everything else in the >>>>> entire distribution ;) >>>>> >>>>> Ben >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Paul Gier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The 1.1.0 and 1.2.0 versions of the console are a lot larger > than the >>>>>> previous 1.0.x versions. Is this expected? >>>>>> >>>>>> jboss-as-console-1.0.2.Final-resources.jar ~ 10MB >>>>>> jboss-as-console-1.2.0.Final-resources.jar ~ 46MB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/06/2012 03:22 AM, Heiko Braun wrote: >>>>>>> Notable changes in AS 7.1.1 at a glance: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Additional Subsystems:/ >>>>>>> - infinispan >>>>>>> - jgroups >>>>>>> - modcluster >>>>>>> - mail >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /Environment Properties:/ >>>>>>> The ability to view any system property that has been passed > to the >>>>>>> JVM when the server was started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /What's next?/ >>>>>>> In the next iteration we'll focus on accessibility issues (508 >>>>>>> compliance), remaining translations and missing runtime > operations >>>> (i.e. >>>>>>> modcluster). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks to Stan, Pavel and David for their contributions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, Heiko >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >>>>>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >>>>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >>>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jboss-as7-dev mailing list >> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-as7-dev mailing list > jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:jboss-as7-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev > > > > > -- > --- > Nik > > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-as7-dev mailing list > jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev _______________________________________________ jboss-as7-dev mailing list jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev