Moving Eclipse 3.7/Indigo onto trunk
by Max Rydahl Andersen
Hi,
After talking yesterday with Seam/CDI/JSF team we came to the conclusion that
the fastest way we could get to Eclipse 3.7 is to break trunk for a while (i.e. the next 2 weeks).
Thus I've asked Nick to merge over the work he (and others) have been doing on the Indigo branch
to trunk later today assuming there will be no objections to this mail.
Nick will send out info on how you can get the proper bits for Eclipse 3.7 development and info on
when the merge is done.
I've created https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8624 with links to migration docs (not many right now)
and to link or subtask for any related Indigo issues.
Thanks,
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
13 years, 7 months
Re: [jbosstools-dev] Replacement options for TPTP (was Re: Moving Eclipse 3.7/Indigo onto trunk)
by Max Rydahl Andersen
> http://www.heise.de/developer/meldung/Neue-Hoffnung-fuer-Eclipse-TPTP-121...
...but this doesn't seem to change its not dead - now its just a zombie ;)
note, TPTP never really catched on and is really too hard to actually use so not a big loss IMO.
/max
>
> ----- "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Rodney Russ" <rruss(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, external-exadel-list(a)redhat.com, "Nick Boldt" <nboldt(a)redhat.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:16:32 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Replacement options for TPTP (was Re: Moving Eclipse 3.7/Indigo onto trunk)
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 19:31, Rodney Russ wrote:
>>
>>> I thought I saw some German company was going to pickup the
>> maintenance on it.
>>
>> links ?
>>
>> /max
>>
>>>
>>> ----- "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
>>>> To: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt(a)redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org,
>> external-exadel-list(a)redhat.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:03:45 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
>> Mountain
>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Replacement options for TPTP (was Re:
>> Moving Eclipse 3.7/Indigo onto trunk)
>>>>
>>>> well TPTP is gone/out/vanished.
>>>>
>>>> Only complication is if it were exposed/included in JBDS 4 at some
>>>> point ?
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe it is ?
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 18:40, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whatever gets decided, please put it in
>>>>>
>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8495
>>>>>
>>>>> so it's documented, tracked, and actionable w/ assignee.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/30/2011 12:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>> it apparently is an existing project but since I haven't seen
>>>> anything but this proposal page
>>>>>> I got no clue what it actually can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone got something more concrete ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 17:14, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless it's an existing project MOVING to Eclipse, I wouldn't
>> plan
>>>> to
>>>>>>> see any useful code in time for JBDS 5 this fall. Tech preview,
>>>> MAYBE,
>>>>>>> but nothing more stable than that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/30/2011 08:26 AM, Snjezana Peco wrote:
>>>>>>>> We could use Runtime Analysis Tools (RAT)
>>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/tools.rat/ when it is
>>>> available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Snjeza
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes - TPTP is dead.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 24:53, Denis Golovin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Max,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TPTP project web site
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/ says: "TPTP will not be
>> in
>>>> the Eclipse Indigo release".
>>>>>>>>>> Should we archive our TPTP component and move it to legacy
>>>> component?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/29/2011 02:27 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nick,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick will send out info on how you can get the proper bits
>>>> for Eclipse 3.7 development and info on
>>>>>>>>>>>> when the merge is done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm coming out of my jetlag, haven't seen a follow up on
>> this
>>>> yet in the mail stream.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What is the status of the merge ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>>>>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools& Dev Studio
>>>>>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /max
>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
>>>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>
>> /max
>> http://about.me/maxandersen
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
13 years, 7 months
Re: [jbosstools-dev] Replacement options for TPTP (was Re: Moving Eclipse 3.7/Indigo onto trunk)
by Max Rydahl Andersen
On Mar 30, 2011, at 19:31, Rodney Russ wrote:
> I thought I saw some German company was going to pickup the maintenance on it.
links ?
/max
>
> ----- "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt(a)redhat.com>
>> Cc: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org, external-exadel-list(a)redhat.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:03:45 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Replacement options for TPTP (was Re: Moving Eclipse 3.7/Indigo onto trunk)
>>
>> well TPTP is gone/out/vanished.
>>
>> Only complication is if it were exposed/included in JBDS 4 at some
>> point ?
>>
>> I don't believe it is ?
>>
>> /max
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 18:40, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>
>>> Whatever gets decided, please put it in
>>>
>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8495
>>>
>>> so it's documented, tracked, and actionable w/ assignee.
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> On 03/30/2011 12:07 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>> it apparently is an existing project but since I haven't seen
>> anything but this proposal page
>>>> I got no clue what it actually can do.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone got something more concrete ?
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 17:14, Nick Boldt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unless it's an existing project MOVING to Eclipse, I wouldn't plan
>> to
>>>>> see any useful code in time for JBDS 5 this fall. Tech preview,
>> MAYBE,
>>>>> but nothing more stable than that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/30/2011 08:26 AM, Snjezana Peco wrote:
>>>>>> We could use Runtime Analysis Tools (RAT)
>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/tools.rat/ when it is
>> available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Snjeza
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes - TPTP is dead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2011, at 24:53, Denis Golovin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Max,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TPTP project web site
>> http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/downloads/ says: "TPTP will not be in
>> the Eclipse Indigo release".
>>>>>>>> Should we archive our TPTP component and move it to legacy
>> component?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Denis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/29/2011 02:27 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nick,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nick will send out info on how you can get the proper bits
>> for Eclipse 3.7 development and info on
>>>>>>>>>> when the merge is done.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm coming out of my jetlag, haven't seen a follow up on this
>> yet in the mail stream.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the status of the merge ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /max
>>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools& Dev Studio
>>>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list
>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev
>>>>
>>>> /max
>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com
>>
>> /max
>> http://about.me/maxandersen
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
13 years, 7 months
Git - do it fully or not ?
by Max Rydahl Andersen
Hey,
We got our svn mirror now but after working with it a bit its basically just as slow as normal svn (if you can get it to work).
...thus i'm wondering if anyone can come up with good reasons to *not* just move all new development over to git and simply kill off
the SVN completely for our jbosstools trunk development ?
3.2.x would stay in SVN.
Comments/Suggestions/Screams/Objections ?
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
13 years, 8 months
FYI :: New/Updated Target Platforms & More Upstream Dependency Mirrors for JBT / JBDS
by Nick Boldt
FYI
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: PLEASE READ :: New/Updated Target Platforms & More Upstream
Dependency Mirrors for JBT / JBDS
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:17:59 -0500
From: Nick Boldt <nboldt(a)redhat.com>
To: external-exadel-list(a)redhat.com <external-exadel-list(a)redhat.com>
== 3.2.x / 4.x ==
I've updated the TP for use with JBT 3.2.x / JBDS 4.x to use the latest
Helios SR2 bits, *including Eclipse 3.6.2 and WTP 3.2.3.*
This is newer than what we used for JBT 3.2.0 / JBDS 4.0.0, and while it
SHOULD be drop-in compatible, it has unfortunately surfaced at least one
problem [0]:
[0] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8523
The TP has been rebuilt and is smaller than before (I cleaned out the
cruft leftover from 3.6.1R and 3.6.2M being combined into a single
repo). I've also added a flag to the TP build jobs so that you can
easily do a complete clean before building, rather than building on top
of an existing one. Takes longer but guarantees there's only ONE version
of any given feature/plugin.
If you need access to the TP, it's here [1]:
[1] http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/target-platform/
== 3.3 / 5.0 in trunk ==
The current TP for use with trunk [2] is also Helios SR2 (Eclipse 3.6.2,
WTP 3.2.3, etc.), but will change to 3.7M5 when we're all ready to
switch over.
*This is a good time to start testing your component with the new
Eclipse 3.7 and see how badly broken it is.*
[2] http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/target-platform_trunk
== 3.3 / 5.0 in 3.3.indigo branch ==
The work-in-progress TP for use with the 3.3.indigo branch [3] currently
contains Eclipse 3.7M5 and WTP 3.3M5:
[3] http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/target-platform_3.3.indigo/
Once that's ready, I'll start spinning jobs in Hudson which build
against this TP instead of the Helios-based one, to see how much
breakage we have & how much work will be required to migrate.
== More Mirroring! ==
I'm also working to have ALL the eclipse.org bits we use mirrored on
download.jboss.org so there won't be any surprises along the way for the
3.3 / 5.0 release as we move up from milestone to milestone. You can
track the work to create these mirrors, and get the 3.3.indigo branch TP
working, here [4]:
[4] https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-8489
Mirrors will be added to the list here [5], should you want to install
things one-by-one or see what versions are available:
[5] http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/requirements/
I am also working to combine these mirrors together into a single
composite update site [6] using the latest approved version (eg., SWTBot
2.0.3, Eclipse 3.7M5) so it's easy to install stuff for testing.
[6] http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/indigo/
---
Any questions, don't hesitate to ask via email, IRC, or other method
(see http://nick.divbyzero.com for the whole list).
--
Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat
Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio
Release Engineer :: Eclipse Modeling & Dash Athena
http://nick.divbyzero.com
13 years, 8 months
