There was some misunderstanding during our long discussion in HipChat. But long story short. Beta2 is our priority right now. If building a new CR1 built (from 4.3.x branch) may cause additional risks for Beta2 release then let's DO NOT do any CR1 build until we release Beta2. For example the c) from the list below is exactly such a risk we want to avoid. Thanks. On 01/28/2016 01:33 PM, Nick Boldt wrote: > Alexey has requested that the current pile of 4.3.mars/9.0.mars jobs > [1] be reconfigured to build from the 4.3.x branch. Currently, they > are set to build from the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch, in case we need a > respin. > > [1] http://jenkins.mw.lab.eng.bos.redhat.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevSt... > > This means that starting from this change, the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch is > effectively frozen, since we won't be building any CI builds from > there (unless we switch back). > > This also means that IFF we need a Beta2b respin (hopefully unlikely > since there's really no time in the schedule for it), it will come > with a bigger-than-normal cost: > > a) I will have to delete all the CR1 CI builds so they don't pollute > the Beta2 aggregation with the wrong BUILD_ALIAS qualifiers > b) I will have to switch the jobs back to use the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch > c) I will have to build THE WHOLE STACK, not just the jobs which > caused the respin (ie., for respin-a we only rebuilt Base and > Openshift, then the JBT and JBDS aggregates & discovery sites). This > will create what looks like a much larger diff for QE since the > qualifiers will be incremented even though bitwise the contents are > the same. > _______________________________________________ jbosstools-dev mailing list jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev

On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:23, Nick Boldt <nboldt(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Yes, but if we need CR1 bits available on Wed, we need to build them first. :D So, we're building them now. Regarding the (c) issue, I've backed up all the snapshots build folders from 4.3.1.Beta2a so IFF we need a respin-b, we can use them as input. > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Leonard Dimaggio <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Can we just finish Beta2 first? Qe should complete its testing on January 29 - and then we should ship on Feb 2. > > -- Len > >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Alexey Kazakov <alkazako(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> There was some misunderstanding during our long discussion in HipChat. >> But long story short. >> Beta2 is our priority right now. If building a new CR1 built (from 4.3.x >> branch) may cause additional risks for Beta2 release then let's DO NOT >> do any CR1 build until we release Beta2. >> For example the c) from the list below is exactly such a risk we want to >> avoid. >> >> Thanks. >> >> On 01/28/2016 01:33 PM, Nick Boldt wrote: >> > Alexey has requested that the current pile of 4.3.mars/9.0.mars jobs >> > [1] be reconfigured to build from the 4.3.x branch. Currently, they >> > are set to build from the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch, in case we need a >> > respin. >> > >> > [1] http://jenkins.mw.lab.eng.bos.redhat.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevSt... >> > >> > This means that starting from this change, the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch is >> > effectively frozen, since we won't be building any CI builds from >> > there (unless we switch back). >> > >> > This also means that IFF we need a Beta2b respin (hopefully unlikely >> > since there's really no time in the schedule for it), it will come >> > with a bigger-than-normal cost: >> > >> > a) I will have to delete all the CR1 CI builds so they don't pollute >> > the Beta2 aggregation with the wrong BUILD_ALIAS qualifiers >> > b) I will have to switch the jobs back to use the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch >> > c) I will have to build THE WHOLE STACK, not just the jobs which >> > caused the respin (ie., for respin-a we only rebuilt Base and >> > Openshift, then the JBT and JBDS aggregates & discovery sites). This >> > will create what looks like a much larger diff for QE since the >> > qualifiers will be incremented even though bitwise the contents are >> > the same. >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> jbosstools-dev mailing list >> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev > > > > -- > Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com) > JBoss by Red Hat > 314 Littleton Road > Westford, MA 01886 USA > tel: 978.392.3179 > cell: 781.472.9912 > http://www.redhat.com > http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio > > > > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev -- Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio http://nick.divbyzero.com _______________________________________________ jbosstools-dev mailing list jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev

On Jan 29, 2016, at 6:33 AM, Alexey Kazakov <alkazako(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: We need this for the PDK installer. It uses nightly builds. > On Jan 29, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > I'm not following here. Why do we need cr bits on Wednesday ? Are we back again at having zero time between the beta and cr1? > > I thought we pushed the dates to avoid exactly this. > > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > > >> On 28 Jan 2016, at 22:23, Nick Boldt <nboldt(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> Yes, but if we need CR1 bits available on Wed, we need to build them first. :D >> >> So, we're building them now. >> >> Regarding the (c) issue, I've backed up all the snapshots build folders from 4.3.1.Beta2a so IFF we need a respin-b, we can use them as input. >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Leonard Dimaggio <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> Can we just finish Beta2 first? Qe should complete its testing on January 29 - and then we should ship on Feb 2. >>> >>> -- Len >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Alexey Kazakov <alkazako(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> There was some misunderstanding during our long discussion in HipChat. >>>> But long story short. >>>> Beta2 is our priority right now. If building a new CR1 built (from 4.3.x >>>> branch) may cause additional risks for Beta2 release then let's DO NOT >>>> do any CR1 build until we release Beta2. >>>> For example the c) from the list below is exactly such a risk we want to >>>> avoid. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> On 01/28/2016 01:33 PM, Nick Boldt wrote: >>>> > Alexey has requested that the current pile of 4.3.mars/9.0.mars jobs >>>> > [1] be reconfigured to build from the 4.3.x branch. Currently, they >>>> > are set to build from the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch, in case we need a >>>> > respin. >>>> > >>>> > [1] http://jenkins.mw.lab.eng.bos.redhat.com/hudson/view/DevStudio/view/DevSt... >>>> > >>>> > This means that starting from this change, the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch is >>>> > effectively frozen, since we won't be building any CI builds from >>>> > there (unless we switch back). >>>> > >>>> > This also means that IFF we need a Beta2b respin (hopefully unlikely >>>> > since there's really no time in the schedule for it), it will come >>>> > with a bigger-than-normal cost: >>>> > >>>> > a) I will have to delete all the CR1 CI builds so they don't pollute >>>> > the Beta2 aggregation with the wrong BUILD_ALIAS qualifiers >>>> > b) I will have to switch the jobs back to use the 4.3.1.Beta2x branch >>>> > c) I will have to build THE WHOLE STACK, not just the jobs which >>>> > caused the respin (ie., for respin-a we only rebuilt Base and >>>> > Openshift, then the JBT and JBDS aggregates & discovery sites). This >>>> > will create what looks like a much larger diff for QE since the >>>> > qualifiers will be incremented even though bitwise the contents are >>>> > the same. >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com) >>> JBoss by Red Hat >>> 314 Littleton Road >>> Westford, MA 01886 USA >>> tel: 978.392.3179 >>> cell: 781.472.9912 >>> http://www.redhat.com >>> http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat >> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio >> http://nick.divbyzero.com >> _______________________________________________ >> jbosstools-dev mailing list >> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev > _______________________________________________ > jbosstools-dev mailing list > jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev _______________________________________________ jbosstools-dev mailing list jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev