12:17 p.m.
Hi all,
While I'm testing staged JBT 4.3.0.CR2a, I noticed that a user facing
Central will see a catalog with a list of items that they cannot select,
with no widget, nothing. Click "Select All" doesn't produce an obvious
feedback so user isn't aware of the impact of "Select All".
It takes at least a few seconds to me, who developed most of the support
for those uninstallable entries in Central catalog, to think about
scrolling down to see usable content. I believe it's going to be much
worse for new users, or for those who don't look at software page often.
Those entries hide some parts of JBoss Tools with real added-value
(Hybrid Tools, OpenShift v3...).
Those useless uninstallable connectors are hiding the useful content,
and unless one already knows or is curious enough to find installable
connectors, it just make this install page seem useless. IMO, it's worse
to have this poor UX in our product than to have some occasional
questions on the user forums.
My immediate recommendation would be:
* Either to drop all those JBT-IS "not yet available" connector and face
user questions on forums, or
* instead of a dozen of "not yet available" entries hiding the
installable one, we should have a single "JBoss Tools integration Stack"
entry telling that the content are not available yet.
On a longer-term approach, there are now way too many things in Central,
either we should make it simpler, or fully revise it to have a more
structured browser, which will ultimately look either like MarketPlace
Client or the regular p2 install wizard with a tree (and some additional
columns and some icons since it's the only real difference between
central catalogs and a p2 site)
Cheers,
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
<http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
12:41 p.m.
Hi all,
While I'm testing staged JBT 4.3.0.CR2a, I noticed that a user facing
Central will see a catalog with a list of items that they cannot
select, with no widget, nothing. Click "Select All" doesn't produce an
obvious feedback so user isn't aware of the impact of "Select All".
It takes at least a few seconds to me, who developed most of the
support for those uninstallable entries in Central catalog, to think
about scrolling down to see usable content. I believe it's going to be
much worse for new users, or for those who don't look at software page
often.
can you please open jira with screenshot ?
There should only be *one* entry that is marked as "coming later" and
thats Fuse.
/max
Those entries hide some parts of JBoss Tools with real added-value
(Hybrid Tools, OpenShift v3...).
Those useless uninstallable connectors are hiding the useful content,
and unless one already knows or is curious enough to find installable
connectors, it just make this install page seem useless. IMO, it's
worse to have this poor UX in our product than to have some occasional
questions on the user forums.
My immediate recommendation would be:
* Either to drop all those JBT-IS "not yet available" connector and
face user questions on forums, or
* instead of a dozen of "not yet available" entries hiding the
installable one, we should have a single "JBoss Tools integration
Stack" entry telling that the content are not available yet.
On a longer-term approach, there are now way too many things in
Central, either we should make it simpler, or fully revise it to have
a more structured browser, which will ultimately look either like
MarketPlace Client or the regular p2 install wizard with a tree (and
some additional columns and some icons since it's the only real
difference between central catalogs and a p2 site)
Cheers,
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
<http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
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12:53 p.m.
On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:17, Mickael Istria wrote:
My immediate recommendation would be:
\* Either to drop all those JBT-IS "not yet available" connector and
face user questions on forums, or
\* instead of a dozen of "not yet available" entries hiding the
installable one, we should have a single "JBoss Tools integration
Stack" entry telling that the content are not available yet.
This is what we agreed to start with afaik.
No point/value in doing this for each single individual connector.
Also a reason why I don't like to have so many individual components in
central...we don't do that for JBDS for this reason.
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
2:49 p.m.
Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you are
referring to?
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:17, Mickael Istria wrote:
> My immediate recommendation would be:
> \* Either to drop all those JBT-IS "not yet available" connector and
> face user questions on forums, or
> \* instead of a dozen of "not yet available" entries hiding the
> installable one, we should have a single "JBoss Tools integration
> Stack" entry telling that the content are not available yet.
This is what we agreed to start with afaik.
No point/value in doing this for each single individual connector.
Also a reason why I don't like to have so many individual components in
central...we don't do that for JBDS for this reason.
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
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2:51 p.m.
On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you
are referring to?
I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's more
or less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding
valuable content.
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
<http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
3:30 p.m.
But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is available?
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you are
referring to?
I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's more or
less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding valuable
content.
--
Mickael Istria
Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
<http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
3:54 p.m.
That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they couldn't find
Fuse Tooling if it was
hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early access, if I just
delete the released
"not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user selects
the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and change
the text to something like:
"Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
See comments:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100?focusedCommentId=13110988&...
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504?focusedCommentId=13114555&p...
What's the collective wisdom?
--paull
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
To: "Mickael Istria" <mistria(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev
jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>,
"Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 9:30:36 AM
Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at the top of Central
catalog sucks
But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is available?
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
>
> Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you are
> referring to?
>
>
>
>
> I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's more or
> less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding valuable
> content.
> --
> Mickael Istria
> Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
> My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
> <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
>
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
3:57 p.m.
I would vote for this:
"Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
(Even if it means agreeing with Paul. ;-)
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Paul Leacu <pleacu(a)redhat.com> wrote:
That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they
couldn't find Fuse Tooling if it was
hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early
access, if I just delete the released
"not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user
selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and
change the text to something like:
"Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
See comments:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100?focusedCommentId=13110988&...
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504?focusedCommentId=13114555&p...
What's the collective wisdom?
--paull
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Mickael Istria" <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>,
"jbosstools-dev
jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>,
> "Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 9:30:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at
the top of Central catalog sucks
>
> But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is
available?
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
> > On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
> >
> > Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you
are
> > referring to?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's
more or
> > less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding
valuable
> > content.
> > --
> > Mickael Istria
> > Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
> > My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
> > <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
> JBoss by Red Hat
> 314 Littleton Road
> Westford, MA 01886 USA
> tel: 978.392.3179
> cell: 781.472.9912
> http://www.redhat.com
> http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
>
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
4:57 p.m.
How about just having one entry for them with keywords so they show up in less visual
space ?
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
On 02 Oct 2015, at 15:58, Leonard Dimaggio
<ldimaggi(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I would vote for this:
"Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
(Even if it means agreeing with Paul. ;-)
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Paul Leacu <pleacu(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they couldn't
find Fuse Tooling if it was
> hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early access, if I just
delete the released
> "not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user
selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
> The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and
change the text to something like:
>
> "Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
>
> See comments:
>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100?focusedCommentId=13110988&...
>
>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504?focusedCommentId=13114555&p...
>
> What's the collective wisdom?
>
> --paull
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Mickael Istria" <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>,
"jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>,
> > "Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 9:30:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at the top of
Central catalog sucks
> >
> > But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is
available?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
> > >
> > > Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you are
> > > referring to?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's more
or
> > > less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding valuable
> > > content.
> > > --
> > > Mickael Istria
> > > Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
> > > My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
> > > <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
> > JBoss by Red Hat
> > 314 Littleton Road
> > Westford, MA 01886 USA
> > tel: 978.392.3179
> > cell: 781.472.9912
> > http://www.redhat.com
> > http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
> >
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
5:02 p.m.
At the risk of agreeing with Max, I agree! ;-)
Let's not have a bunch of these statements - one should be enough.
-- Len
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
How about just having one entry for them with keywords so they show
up in
less visual space ?
/max
http://about.me/maxandersen
On 02 Oct 2015, at 15:58, Leonard Dimaggio <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I would vote for this:
"Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
(Even if it means agreeing with Paul. ;-)
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Paul Leacu <pleacu(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they
> couldn't find Fuse Tooling if it was
> hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early
> access, if I just delete the released
> "not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user
> selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
> The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and
> change the text to something like:
>
> "Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
> installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
>
> See comments:
>
>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100?focusedCommentId=13110988&...
>
>
>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504?focusedCommentId=13114555&p...
>
> What's the collective wisdom?
>
> --paull
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
> > To: "Mickael Istria" <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>,
"jbosstools-dev
> jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>,
> > "Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>
> > Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 9:30:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at
> the top of Central catalog sucks
> >
> > But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is
> available?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
> > >
> > > Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you
> are
> > > referring to?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's
> more or
> > > less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding
> valuable
> > > content.
> > > --
> > > Mickael Istria
> > > Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools>
> > > My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
> > > <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
> > JBoss by Red Hat
> > 314 Littleton Road
> > Westford, MA 01886 USA
> > tel: 978.392.3179
> > cell: 781.472.9912
> > http://www.redhat.com
> > http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
> >
>
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
5:07 p.m.
At the risk of agreeing with both of you - I agree too. :) Let me put something
together for you
to ponder (got a bug to fix in 8.0.4 first)
--paull
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
To: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>, "Mickael Istria"
<mistria(a)redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev jbosstools-dev"
<jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 11:02:47 AM
Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at the top of Central
catalog sucks
At the risk of agreeing with Max, I agree! ;-)
Let's not have a bunch of these statements - one should be enough.
-- Len
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> How about just having one entry for them with keywords so they show up in
> less visual space ?
>
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen
>
>
> On 02 Oct 2015, at 15:58, Leonard Dimaggio <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I would vote for this:
>
> "Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
> installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
>
>
> (Even if it means agreeing with Paul. ;-)
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Paul Leacu <pleacu(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they
>> couldn't find Fuse Tooling if it was
>> hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early
>> access, if I just delete the released
>> "not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the
user
>> selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
>> The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors
and
>> change the text to something like:
>>
>> "Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
>> installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
>>
>> See comments:
>>
>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100?focusedCommentId=13110988&...
>>
>>
>>
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504?focusedCommentId=13114555&p...
>>
>> What's the collective wisdom?
>>
>> --paull
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
>> > To: "Mickael Istria" <mistria(a)redhat.com>
>> > Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>,
"jbosstools-dev
>> jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>,
>> > "Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 9:30:36 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at
>> the top of Central catalog sucks
>> >
>> > But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is
>> available?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you
>> are
>> > > referring to?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes,
it's
>> more or
>> > > less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding
>> valuable
>> > > content.
>> > > --
>> > > Mickael Istria
>> > > Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat
<http://www.jboss.org/tools>
>> > > My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com> - My Tweets
>> > > <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria>
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
>> > JBoss by Red Hat
>> > 314 Littleton Road
>> > Westford, MA 01886 USA
>> > tel: 978.392.3179
>> > cell: 781.472.9912
>> > http://www.redhat.com
>> > http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
> JBoss by Red Hat
> 314 Littleton Road
> Westford, MA 01886 USA
> tel: 978.392.3179
> cell: 781.472.9912
> http://www.redhat.com
> http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
>
>
>
--
Len DiMaggio (ldimaggi(a)redhat.com)
JBoss by Red Hat
314 Littleton Road
Westford, MA 01886 USA
tel: 978.392.3179
cell: 781.472.9912
http://www.redhat.com
http://community.jboss.org/people/ldimaggio
11:25 a.m.
On 2 Oct 2015, at 15:54, Paul Leacu wrote:
That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they
couldn't find Fuse Tooling if it was
hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early
access, if I just delete the released
"not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user
selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and
change the text to something like:
"Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
The feature of having "early access more visible"
(https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20609) was postponed since we did
not get it fully working for the code freeze.
Until we get this done I suggest we keep the "not available" ones (but
not the verbose *all* of them) to tell users about earlyaccess instead.
/max
See comments:
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20100?focusedCommentId=13110988&...
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504?focusedCommentId=13114555&p...
What's the collective wisdom?
--paull
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leonard Dimaggio" <ldimaggi(a)redhat.com>
> To: "Mickael Istria" <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse(a)redhat.com>, "jbosstools-dev
> jbosstools-dev" <jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>,
> "Paul Leacu" <pleacu(a)redhat.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 9:30:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at
> the top of Central catalog sucks
>
> But - isn't this just a temporary condition until the tooling is
> available?
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Mickael Istria <mistria(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/02/2015 02:49 PM, Leonard Dimaggio wrote:
>>
>> Mickael - Are these (see attached) the items (form 9.0.CR2) that you
>> are
>> referring to?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I was looking at JBoss Tools at that time, not JBDS, but yes, it's
>> more or
>> less the same issue of multiple not yet avallable things hiding
>> valuable
>> content.
>> --
>> Mickael Istria
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>
>
>
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/max
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5:28 p.m.
On 10/05/2015 05:25 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
On 2 Oct 2015, at 15:54, Paul Leacu wrote:
> That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they
> couldn't find Fuse Tooling if it was
> hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early
> access, if I just delete the released
> "not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user
> selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
> The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and
> change the text to something like:
>
> "Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
> installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
The feature of having "early access more visible"
(https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20609) was postponed since we did
not get it fully working for the code freeze.
Until we get this done I suggest we keep the "not available" ones (but
not the verbose *all* of them) to tell users about earlyaccess instead.
+1.
Do we have a jira for that where we could track the progress of this
issue? I mean the progress of hiding multiple N/A IS connectors?
5:36 p.m.
Yes - see https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBTIS-504 - I'm almost done with what I
propose to do with the 9.0.0.Alpha2.
WIll update it today for sure.
--paull
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexey Kazakov" <alkazako(a)redhat.com>
To: jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 11:28:05 AM
Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] The list of uninstallable connectors at the top of Central
catalog sucks
On 10/05/2015 05:25 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 15:54, Paul Leacu wrote:
>
>> That's actually a question I have. The original Jira said they
>> couldn't find Fuse Tooling if it was
>> hidden under early access. Now that they are available as early
>> access, if I just delete the released
>> "not available" descriptors they're hidden again (until the user
>> selects the 'Enable Early Access' checkbox).
>> The alternative would be to keep the "not available" descriptors and
>> change the text to something like:
>>
>> "Select the 'Enable Early Access' check box for an early access
>> installation. Also available in JBoss Tools 4.2.x."
> The feature of having "early access more visible"
> (https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-20609) was postponed since we did
> not get it fully working for the code freeze.
>
> Until we get this done I suggest we keep the "not available" ones (but
> not the verbose *all* of them) to tell users about earlyaccess instead.
>
+1.
Do we have a jira for that where we could track the progress of this
issue? I mean the progress of hiding multiple N/A IS connectors?
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