Followups from Ed. NG> Hi there again Guys, NG> Section 7.4.3 of the Spec has an example navigation-handler, which NG> shows how to use the include-view-params feature: NG> <redirectNG> <view-paramNG> <name>userId</name><value>someValue</valueNG> </view-paramNG> <include-view-params>true</include-view-paramsNG> </redirect NG> However, using <include-view-params> as an XML element is invalid NG> according to web-facesconfig_2_0.xsd NG> But then, in section 7.4.2, the Spec talks about the "include-view- NG> params" attribute on the <redirect /> element, like this: NG> <redirect include-view-params="true" / NG> The attribute syntax is what the XSD wants, and what Ryan's blog [1]) NG> claims as well. I fixed the example to have tha attribute syntax. Thanks. NG> Having said that, if the attribute way is the right syntax, then I NG> think there are two problems with it: NG> 1. Although I prefer attribute-syntax for XML, the faces-config.xml NG> file doesn't use XML attributes anywhere. Instead, it uses the verbose NG> <element>#PCDATA</element> syntax. So having an attribute on NG> <redirect /> is really inconsistent with the rest of the file. NG> 2. it's really inconsistent and weird to have dashes-in-the-name-of-an- NG> xml-attribute. For example, we use camelCase for actionListener: Your points are well taken, but we did decide on this syntax. NG> <h:commandButton actionListener="#{myBean.actionListener}" / NG> 3. The functionality/purpose of this include-view-parameters feature NG> is really confusing. Does it mean: NG> A. Include/exclude the f:viewParam stuff found in f:metaData of the NG> from-view-id? NG> B. Include/exclude the <view-param> children of the <redirectelement? NG> C. Both A & B? This is covered in the section 7.5.2 where we talk about getBookmarkableURL(). Ed -- | ed.burns(a)sun.com | office: 408 884 9519 OR x31640 | homepage: | http://ridingthecrest.com/