Thank you Martin! I interpreted this enablement differently. The CDI 1.2 spec states: A bean is said to be /enabled/ if: * it is deployed in a bean archive, and * it is not a producer method or field of a disabled bean, and * it is not specialized by any other enabled bean, as defined in _Specialization_ <http://docs.jboss.org/cdi/spec/1.2/cdi-spec.html#specialization>;, and either * it is not an alternative, or it is a selected alternative of at least one bean archive or the application. Otherwise, the bean is said to be disabled. In the above app, there are two jars. The jar beans-xml-modified2.jar.jar does not enable the alternative and in its injection, it should only see the CounterProducerModified. While in another jar, the alternative AlternativeCounterProducerModified completely disabled the CounterProducerModified. Any injection in that jar should only see the specialized bean. From what you explained, the beans.xml in one jar enabled the alternative bean and affect other jars. From my understanding, the enablement of alternatives/interceptors are specific for that archive and should not affect other jars. Also OpenWebBeans behaves differently from Weld, and OpenWebBeans does what I have expected (enablement are per jar only). Many thanks, Emily =========================== Emily Jiang WebSphere Application Server, CDI Development Lead MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278 Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB From: Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt; To: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Cc: Weld <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Date: 18/11/2015 15:52 Subject: Re: potential weld jira ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Well, it seems the problem is that CounterProducerModified is specialized by AlternativeCounterProducerModified and so it's not enabled and therefore it's producer method is also disabled (see also 5.1.2. Enabled and disabled beans [1]), i.e. it's not available for injection in beans-xml-modified2.jar. And AlternativeCounterProducerModified is an alternative which is not selected for beans-xml-modified2.jar. It should work if you enable AlternativeCounterProducerModified globally or select AlternativeCounterProducerModified for beans-xml-modified2.jar. Martin [1] http://docs.jboss.org/cdi/spec/1.2/cdi-spec.html#enablement Dne 18.11.2015 v 16:14 Emily Jiang napsal(a): > Hi Martin, > > Here's a simplified form of the test case: > > > The application does not start, reporting > > [ERROR ] CWWKZ0004E: An exception occurred while starting the > application testDiffBDA. The exception message was: > com.ibm.ws.container.service.state.StateChangeException: > org.jboss.weld.exceptions.DeploymentException: WELD-001408: Unsatisfied > dependencies for type String with qualifiers @CounterModifiedQualifier > at injection point [BackedAnnotatedField] @Inject > @CounterModifiedQualifier > com.ibm.jcdi.test.beansxml.CounterProducerConsumerModified2.modifiedProducer > at > com.ibm.jcdi.test.beansxml.CounterProducerConsumerModified2.modifiedProducer(CounterProducerConsumerModified2.java:0) > > There are five classes in the .war. > > testDiffBDA.war/WEB-INF/classes/test/diff/web/FrontEndServlet.class > > @Inject CounterProducerConsumerModified2 bean; > > This class, CounterProducerConsumerModified2.class is packaged in the > first of two WEB-INF/lib jars, at > testDiffBDA.war/WEB-INF/lib/beans-xml-modified2.jar.jar/com/ibm/jcdi/test/beans/xml. > There is a bean that needs another bean injected into it: > > @Inject@CounterModifiedQualifierString modifiedProducer; > > The remaining three classes are all in the second WEB-INF/lib jar, at > testDiffBDA.war/WEB-INF/lib/beans-xml-modified.jar.jar/com/ibm/jcdi/test/beansxml/. > The classes are > > CounterModifiedQualifier (the interface) > CounterProducerModified (the bean implementing that interface) > AlternativeCounterProducerModified (an alternative bean) > > The AlternativeCounterProducerModified class is declared in > testDiffBDA.war/WEB-INF/lib/beans-xml-modified.jar.jar/META-INF/beans.xml, > > <alternatives> > <class>com.ibm.jcdi.test.beansxml.AlternativeCounterProducerModified</class> > </alternatives> > > The test app starts correctly if the <alternative> stanza is commented out. > > > Many thanks, > Emily > =========================== > Emily Jiang > WebSphere Application Server, CDI Development Lead > > MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN > Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278 > > Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com > Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB > > > > > From: Martin Kouba <mkouba(a)redhat.com&gt; > To: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB, Weld <weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, > Date: 18/11/2015 07:58 > Subject: Re: potential weld jira > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Hi Emily, > > a brief description would be helpful - it's not a trivial > deployment/reproducer. > > Martin > > Dne 16.11.2015 v 23:15 Emily Jiang napsal(a): > > I'm trying to deploy the attached war but got Weld alidation error. On > > Glassfish 4.1, I got this error: > > Error occurred during deployment: Exception while loading the app : CDI > > deployment failure:WELD-001408: Unsatisfied dependencies for type String > > with qualifiers @DiffBDACounterQualifier at injection point > > [BackedAnnotatedField] @Inject @DiffBDACounterQualifier > > > com.ibm.jcdi.test.beansxml.CounterProducerConsumerModified.diffBDAProducer > > at > > > com.ibm.jcdi.test.beansxml.CounterProducerConsumerModified.diffBDAProducer(CounterProducerConsumerModified.java:0) > > WELD-001475: The following beans match by type, but none have matching > > qualifiers: - Producer Method [String] with qualifiers > > [@CounterUnmodifiedQualifier @Any] declared as [[BackedAnnotatedMethod] > > @ExcludeClassInterceptors @Produces @CounterUnmodifiedQualifier > > > com.ibm.jcdi.test.beansxml.CounterProducerNoModifiers.getCounterBeanProducer()], > > - Producer Method [String] with qualifiers [@BatchProperty @Any] > > declared as [[UnbackedAnnotatedMethod] @Produces @Dependent > > @BatchProperty public com.ibm.jbatch.container.cdi.BatchProducerBean.p > > .... msg.seeServerLog > > > > > > > > > > > > The app works fine on OpenWebBeans. Any ideas on what was wrong? > > > > Many thanks, > > Emily > > =========================== > > Emily Jiang > > WebSphere Application Server, CDI Development Lead > > > > MP 211, DE3A20, Winchester, Hampshire, England, SO21 2JN > > Phone: +44 (0)1962 816278 Internal: 246278 > > > > Email: emijiang(a)uk.ibm.com > > Lotus Notes: Emily Jiang/UK/IBM@IBMGB > > > > -- > Martin Kouba > Software Engineer > Red Hat, Czech Republic > > > -- Martin Kouba Software Engineer Red Hat, Czech Republic