1:12 a.m.
Hi all!
I see the Snapshot4 does not include any more the Arquillan module. I wonder
if this temporarly due to the Testing Consolidation process or it will be
not included at all in the final distribution.
As a matter of fact, having Arquillan libraries built-in AS 7 makes fairly
attractive unit testing with Eclipse Indigo and JBoss Tools 3.3.1, which
already have AS 7 support.
Thanks for your feedback
Francesco
2:58 a.m.
As a matter of fact, having Arquillan libraries built-in AS 7 makes
fairly attractive unit testing with Eclipse Indigo and JBoss Tools 3.3.1, which already
have AS 7
Hmm...i'm interested how ? :) you mean because in jbt 3.3 M1 we included every single
jar found under modules and thus it was exposed on The classpath ?
We actually dont do that anymore in M2 since including everything is and Will eventually
cause more than a few classloader issues.
For now we just limit it to The javax module.
Until now i havent been fond of arquillian being bundled within as7 since it creates yet
another different way of configuring and setting up classpaths for arquillian.
I.e. If we go back to include it for as7 server adapter in Jbt then those projects that
want to target multiple server testing would need to remove it.
9:07 a.m.
Hi Max - thanks for the holiday reply :-)
Hmm...i'm interested how ? :) you mean because in jbt 3.3 M1 we
included
every single jar found under modules and thus it was >exposed on The
classpath ?
Well substantially yes. Having Arquillan modules bundled in the distribution
means you could set up your EE integration test from Eclipse in a matter of
minutes.
The reverse side of the medal, is that bypassing Maven, you would get a
discrepancy from the official distribution.
I'd be glad to hear what developers consider the major priority between
these two statements.
I by no means am trying to discourage anyone from writing unit tests,
however I've found the percentage of unit tests in EE applications to be
small, mostly because it was necessary to invest time (and money) in
learning and setting up a proper test environment; so IMHO, having an
integration test platform built-in could be a very good plus.
regards
Francesco
2011/6/19 Max Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com>
> As a matter of fact, having Arquillan libraries built-in AS 7 makes
fairly attractive unit testing with Eclipse Indigo and JBoss Tools 3.3.1,
which already have AS 7
Hmm...i'm interested how ? :) you mean because in jbt 3.3 M1 we included
every single jar found under modules and thus it was exposed on The
classpath ?
We actually dont do that anymore in M2 since including everything is and
Will eventually cause more than a few classloader issues.
For now we just limit it to The javax module.
Until now i havent been fond of arquillian being bundled within as7 since
it creates yet another different way of configuring and setting up
classpaths for arquillian.
I.e. If we go back to include it for as7 server adapter in Jbt then those
projects that want to target multiple server testing would need to remove
it.
6:28 a.m.
>Hmm...i'm interested how ? :) you mean because in jbt 3.3 M1
we included every single jar found under modules and thus it was >exposed on The
classpath ?
Well substantially yes.
For JBT M2 you would have to add it manually since we limited the automatic class path
inclusion to public javax api.
Having Arquillan modules bundled in the distribution means you could
set up your EE integration test from Eclipse in a matter of minutes.
The reverse side of the medal, is that bypassing Maven, you would get a discrepancy from
the official distribution.
I'd be glad to hear what developers consider the major priority between these two
statements.
Yes, this is my problem - that there will be discrepancies by default which aren't
good.
I by no means am try ing to dis cour age any one from writ ing unit tests, however
I've found the percentage of unit tests in EE applications to be small, mostly because
it was necessary to invest time (and money) in learning and setting up a proper test
environment; so IMHO, having an integration test platform built-in could be a very good
plus.
True. We've got plans to allow user to configured what parts of the modules in AS7
they will include on projects - but as you say its a challenge to get the "easy
setup, short toerm" to work well with "a bit more options but stable long
term" solutions.
right now i'm leaning towards the "long term" option but if we can find a
better balance in how the two are setup/configured that would be great.
/max
regards
Francesco
2011/6/19 Max Andersen <manderse(a)redhat.com>
> As a matter of fact, having Arquillan libraries built-in AS 7 makes fairly
attractive unit testing with Eclipse Indigo and JBoss Tools 3.3.1, which already have AS
7
Hmm...i'm interested how ? :) you mean because in jbt 3.3 M1 we included every single
jar found under modules and thus it was exposed on The classpath ?
We actually dont do that anymore in M2 since including everything is and Will eventually
cause more than a few classloader issues.
For now we just limit it to The javax module.
Until now i havent been fond of arquillian being bundled within as7 since it creates yet
another different way of configuring and setting up classpaths for arquillian.
I.e. If we go back to include it for as7 server adapter in Jbt then those projects that
want to target multiple server testing would need to remove it.
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