On 02/01/2016 07:25 PM, Aurelien Pupier wrote:
Le 1/27/2016 11:53 AM, Mickael Istria a écrit :
> Yes, but it requires an effort in moving the code to the right plugin
> or turning fragment into a bundle everytime one identifies something
> to reuse; whereas using bundles only doesn't require any effort from
> the "producer" side.
Considering this code as first citizen, it seems to me an acceptable
Do you put your actual "first citizen" business code into
>> When running locally, I may want to run only unit tests
>> Without launching the OSGi platform it will be faster. It will also
>> allow to use some tools such as Infinitest to have continuous
>> feedback while developing.
> I don't know much of Infinitest, but I believe it doesn't rely on how
> Maven runs tests. Eclipse already provide the ability to run a test
> class in a bundle in plain Java without starting the workbench; it's
> "Run As > JUnit Test" instead of "Run As > JUnit Plugin
> guess Infinitest can rely on that, can't it?
Yes Infinitest can rely on it but it means that you are able to launch
as "JUnit test" and so not starting the workbench.
Yes, and if you're
able to do it from the Eclipse IDE for your test
class, isn't it enough?
So in your IDE, you can run "unit tests" without the workbench/Platform
actually started, just the API available; and with Maven and
tycho-surefire-plugin, you get a Platform/workbench started, like it
will happen in real-life, to find real issues that wouldn't happen in
plain Java environment.
> Just to be clear, I'm not saying it's wrong to change
that; I'm more
> wonderint how much profitable is it, what changing test structure
> would provide better than the current one does. The Infinitest story
> seems the only one "worth it" IMO, and it doesn't seem to be
> correlated to tycho-surefire vs maven-surefire.
InfiniTest or only launching test of a single plugin very fast (less
than a second versus tens seconds) it is the difference between
keeping concentrated on the task and have our brain switching to
It seems to me that only tests launched with surefire will be able and
ensured - to run with Junit test.
I believe this sentence illustrates our
divergence: you mainly think
about tests as a tool for the developer, and they have to be fast for
the developer to use them. That's right.
I see them as an armor for the application, I want them to find as many
bugs possible in the actual environment where the code will actually
run, and if it has a cost for the developer, so be it, as long as tests
are still run and checked by continuous integration. That's right too.
Overall, both are right and useful. Depending on the test, you might
want one or the other.
What's possible and that seems like the best thing to me is to have the
unit-tests in a bundle that run fast with maven-surefire-plugin, and
have integration tests in another bundle also running the unit-test
suite (+ some other tests) with tycho-surefire-plugin. So you get the
best of both: unit tests are run fast and keep running fast because they
are automatically tested using plain JUnit and maven-surefire-plugin;
and you also have them running as part of the integration tests to also
detect bugs that depend on the Eclipse runtime mechanism.
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