Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse target platform features

Hi Max, to clarify if something is missing, I've decided to install Portlet tools using clean Eclipse Indigo SR1 (for Java developers). I've used the http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/development/indigo/ update site. Then I've tried to create a New Dynamic Web Project with Java Portlet facet enabled - and it failed with the same errors as the tests. Do we support installation of JBT on Eclipse for Java developers?

If not, then I understand that I need to specify the JEE features and plugins in tests by myself. But this constraint should be also mentioned on the update site: http://www.jboss.org/tools/download/dev Regards, Lucia ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> Sorry, I've forgotten to mention that I am developing SWTBot >>>> tests. >>>> However, I still think that the UI test should basically >>>> reference >>>> just the feature under the test and not features like >>>> org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_ui.feature.feature.group or >>>> org.eclipse.jst.web_core.feature.feature.group. >>> >>> This is a wrong assumption :) How do you expect Tycho to figure >>> out >>> the proper dependency set if there are no dependencies to it ? >> >> Of course Tycho cannot handle dependencies that are not defined - >> my assumption however is that if there is a plugin and the plugin >> cannot successfully be executed without some dependencies, the >> plugin should define those dependencies. In my case - I am testing >> portlets in JBT, so I would suppose that either the portlet >> feature or some feature imported from that feature should >> reference the Eclipse JEE features if it cannot run without them. > > Yes, and you/dev should figure out if that is the case! > > If no tests found it before then it is either because Yes, this > plugin should be listed explicitly OR No, this plugin is implicit > and optional and thus something tests would need to do it. > >> So my question is, would it be a good idea to add previously >> mentioned features from Eclipse JEE to the JBT plugin that >> actually needs it and thus explicitly express the dependency? > > Which features specifically ? The epp and ide ones does not make > sense since they are eclipse product features AFAIK. > > /max > >> >>> >>> What is missing is a way to tell Tycho to use "everything" from >>> the >>> target platform but that will also not always be what you want. >>> >>> I've seen musings on tycho-dev/user on this problem but I haven't >>> followed through to see what options there is. >>> >>>>> And the resulting target platform was different from the >>>>> installation the user would have if he / she downloaded Eclipse >>>>> and installed JBT to it. That's why I thought that referencing >>>>> *.platform.ide feature and the jee feature would solve this >>>>> issue. >>>> >>>>> No, those are at the wrong level. They are the "product" >>>>> definitions from eclipse epp packages. >>>> >>>> So do you think it not an issue that the target platform where >>>> the >>>> SWTBot tests run is not the "normal" Eclipse platform? >>> >>> Depends what your test does. >>> >>> But yes, I would like to find a way to tell Tycho to *build* >>> against >>> this target platform (which is 'everything') and then >>> run tests against a set of different target platforms. (i.e. JBDS >>> 5, >>> Eclipse Java EE EPP 3.7 and 3.7.1) >>> >>> But I don't know if that is possible yet - it would be really >>> useful >>> though. >>> >>> Maybe raise this question on tycho mailing list to hear how others >>> solves this if anything ? >> >> Yes, that is a good advice, thank you. >> >>> >>> /max >>> >>>> >>>>> /max >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lucia >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Nick Boldt" <nboldt(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> To: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>> Cc: "Lucia Jelinkova" <ljelinko(a)redhat.com&gt;, >>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 7:00:42 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [jbosstools-dev] Eclipse target platform features >>>>> >>>>> Just realized this is the public jbosstools-dev list, not the >>>>> internal >>>>> JBDS one. So... if you're not behind the VPN, you can't access >>>>> that site. >>>>> >>>>> You can however see the same bits here, if you point Eclipse or >>>>> JBDS at it: >>>>> >>>>> http://devstudio.jboss.com/updates/5.0.0/5.0.0.M5.target-platform/ >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Nick >>>>> >>>>> On 01/12/2012 12:58 PM, Nick Boldt wrote: >>>>>> In addition to the JBT Target Platform site, there's also the >>>>>> JBDS >>>>>> Target Platform site: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.qa.jboss.com/binaries/RHDS/updates/jbds-target-platform_3.3.in... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is that what you were looking for? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 01/12/2012 12:43 PM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: >>>>>>>> I am trying to run my SWTBot tests using Maven and Tycho. The >>>>>>>> problem >>>>>>>> is, that besides feature under test (in my case it is >>>>>>>> org.jboss.tools.portlet.feature.feature.group) I need to >>>>>>>> reference >>>>>>>> also other Eclipse related features: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_ui.feature.feature.group >>>>>>>> org.eclipse.jst.web_core.feature.feature.group >>>>>>>> org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.hsqldb.feature.feature.group >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also need to specify some plugins where I've not found >>>>>>>> corresponding feature: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.core >>>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.support.jsp >>>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.web.ui >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd like to get rid of these dependencies by referencing only >>>>>>>> one or >>>>>>>> two features - the one of Eclipse itself (so that I can run >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> tests >>>>>>>> against the full Eclipse installation). I've found in my >>>>>>>> 'Eclipse >>>>>>>> Java EE IDE for Web >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try to avoid using features as dependencies - use plugins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, on our target platform URL >>>>>>>> (http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/target-platform_3.3.indigo.S...) >>>>>>>> I can find just the first one (although also some JEE >>>>>>>> features >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> there). Am I just missing it? Would it be possible to change >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> target platform to include both of them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, app and platform.ide are product features which is *not* >>>>>>> part of >>>>>>> our target platform. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, would it be possible to create similar site with JBDS >>>>>>>> installation so that we can test against the full product? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure what this means ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /max >>>>>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jbosstools-dev mailing list >>>>>>> jbosstools-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jbosstools-dev >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Nick Boldt :: JBoss by Red Hat >>>>> Productization Lead :: JBoss Tools & Dev Studio >>>>> http://nick.divbyzero.com >>>> >>>> /max >>>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> /max >>> http://about.me/maxandersen >>> >>> >>> >>> > > /max > http://about.me/maxandersen > > > >