Within that document, they also suggest that the debug level is for: anonymous wrote : | Developer or in depth information required for support is the basis for this priority. | That doesn't suggest that most will have debugging enabled in a production environment. We should be targeting production for efficient business processing. I haven't seen that isDebugEnabled is deprecated. Can you shoot me a link to that? Also, putting general debug messages that log full objects can lead to Hibernate lazy loading of objects when there is not necessarily a reason to load the object. This is definitely a place for efficiency bugs to creep up. View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4222047#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...