9:07 p.m.
After Devoxx, I never stopped to look back for published feedback about the
3 hour JSF 2 university presentation that Andy, Pete and I gave at Devoxx. I
finally did, and to my pleasant surprise, the feedback was very positive.
Here are some clips:
"The course was divided into 3 sections: View (Andy), Controller (Dan) and
Model (Peter). What I liked about there presentation style was the fact that
they showed how something was in JSF 1.x, how they improved it in JSF2.0 en
what they should improve in JSF 2.next. The presentation given by Peter Muir
was the best of the 3. He was very enthusiastic and explained why JSF
shouldn’t concern (very much) about the model. I’ve learned a lot in this
presentation." [1]
"Of particular value was the deep dive into the JSF 2.0 spec, with 3 key JSF
people, Dan Allen, Peter Muir, and Andy Schwartz introducing various aspects
of the related specs. I thought they all spoke great: very clearly and with
in depth knowledge of their subject matter." [2]
"It was also cool to be told that these 3 speakers weren't just there to
tell us about the JSF spec (and other related specs), but to invite us to
become part of the process. Sure, that's what one is always told in sessions
of this kind, but here it seemed to be really in earnest, with nothing more
being needed than an account on java.net to log feature requests for JSF
2.0." [2]
"So yesterday I had a BOF with the JSF spec leads (well the 3 key persons:
Dan Allen, Peter Muir and Andy Schwartz) and we could in a very relaxed
setting ask them some questions about the JSF 2 spec. So we could find out
how and why they made some decisions. The question I asked them: "Why is JSF
2 not more focused on components so that I can mix and match components of
3rd party providers?". The answer was that they are looking into that and
that a lot of problems one has with that right now is how resources are
loaded: all 3rd parties made something on their own. So now all the AJAX
stuff needs to be gathered and then they will look into that. Good answer,
I'm glad that they are aware of what lives in the community." [3]
And here are the three amigos in action:
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I also found feedback about Antonio's Java EE 6 presentation.
"The first presentation was again a 3 hours during class about the Java EE6
platform by Antonio Goncalves and Alexis Moussine-Pouchkine....It was the
best presentation I’ve seen on Devoxx this year. They explained most of the
new features in EE6 (validation, jsf, EJB3.1,EJB Lite, JSF2.0,
Servlet3.0,JAX-RS 1.1,JPA2.0,..) and gave an example for each feature. I’m
very excited about JavaEE6. It’s a lot easier and has a lot of cool
features. They told us that Java EE6 (and GlassfishV3) will be released in
December. I can’t wait." [1]
I should also mention that it was during Devoxx that Sebastian Hennebrueder
published his "JSF 2 - evaluation and test" [4] novel-sized entry. Thanks to
coodination by Andy, the very next day four JSR-314 EG members representing
three companies sat down with him and listened to his concerns. Now if that
doesn't show sign of life from the EG, I don't know what does. We are
continuing to work with Sebastian to weave his ideas into the design
discussions for #jsf2next.
[1] http://dev.eek.be/2009/11/devoxx-university-2009/
[2] http://java.dzone.com/news/devoxx-day-1-university-day-1
[3] http://ctpjava.blogspot.com/2009/11/devoxx-day-2.html
[4] http://www.laliluna.de/jsf-2-evaluation-test.html
I suppose I should now turn this into a blog entry :)
-Dan
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Dan Allen
Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
Registered Linux User #231597
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