Pete, Andy, Lincoln and I would really like to get the following two issues ironed out before Pete, Andy and I go in front of the audience at Devoxx to give our "JSF 2 and beyond: Keeping progress" coming talk: #1. Fix the broken JSR-314-OPEN mailinglist archives: ** http://archives.java.sun.com/jsr-314-open.html #2. Have a community maillinst or forum. We are willing to say that the JCP.org boards are the community forum, if we can get a statement from the JCP that the e-mail gateway will eventually work (http://wiki.jcp.org/boards/index.php?b=958) The main emphasis is this talk is community involvement. It's pretty useless for us to stand up there and have zero options for the community to get involved. jsr314-comments(a)jcp.org is not a solution. I'm willing to get on a conference call if necessary to get some action. -Dan -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen