Hi Imre, I don't know of a d) which is used like this (with some DI-containers, you can of course do it, although nobody I have seen does it). In any case, it really sounds terribly complicated and wrong to do it, and not at all like a correct answer, while the other 3 all sound right to me. But - maybe it's just me, so help me out: please give me a better suggestion for a) if you think it is not yet far enough from the truth.... regards, Martin On 12/18/09, Imre Osswald <ioss(a)mx.jevelopers.com&gt; wrote: > Hi Martin, > > how "hard you have to push" depends on what "register" and "Managed > Bean" really means. > But let's say we have a d) which allows me to register Managed Beans > dynamically, then you could have groovy code in your view definition, > that gets executed and registers the MB. > While I am pretty sure, this is something I don't want to see in any > view definition I have to work with, it would still be possible. > (About using groovy in the view-definition see: > http://blog.jevelopers.com/archives/4-Project-Frisco-started.html) > > regards, > Imre > > On 18.12.2009, at 00:30, Martin Marinschek wrote: > >> Hi Imre, >> >> d) is certainly valid with more than one bean container right now. >> In >> which context is a) valid? Never heard of anything like this. >> >> I don't think potential exam-takers will read this list, if they >> do, I >> think it's ok if they pass the exam ;) >> >> regards, >> >> Martin >> >> On 12/17/09, Imre Osswald <ioss(a)mx.jevelopers.com&gt; wrote: >>> If d) is valid and you push hard enough you can make a) valid too. >>> >>> But my actual question is, if we publish the questions and answers >>> here on an open list, will they still be usable in an exam? :) >>> >>> Imre >>> >>> On 17.12.2009, at 16:37, Martin Marinschek wrote: >>> >>>> I would have said that b, c and d are all three valid answers. >>>> Can't >>>> we have multiple valid answers? >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> On 12/17/09, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Geary >>>>> <clarity.training(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 2009/12/17 Martin Marinschek <mmarinschek(a)apache.org&gt; >>>>>> >>>>>>> I won't chime in for the distractors, but here my question: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How can you register a managed bean with JSF2? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a) Using groovy in the view definition >>>>>>> b) Using XML-code in the faces configuration file >>>>>>> c) Using annotations in the Java-Code of the managed-bean >>>>>>> d) Using other JSF2 compliant bean-containers >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> c) ... (@ManagedBean or @Named) >>>>> >>>>> -Dan >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dan Allen >>>>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action >>>>> Registered Linux User #231597 >>>>> >>>>> http://mojavelinux.com >>>>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction >>>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> http://www.irian.at >>>> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>> Courses in English and German >>>> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://www.irian.at >> >> Your JSF powerhouse - >> JSF Consulting, Development and >> Courses in English and German >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces

Ah well, so this is what the community decides as a question: How can you register a managed bean with JSF2? a) By calling FacesContext.getApplication().registerManagedBean(String name, Class<?> beanClass) b) Using XML-code in the faces configuration file c) Using annotations in the Java-Code of the managed-bean (@ManagedBean or @Named) d) Using other JSF2 compliant bean-containers like a CDI implementation or Spring I would be curious as to how many people find the correct answer ;) regards, Martin On 12/18/09, Imre Osswald <ioss(a)mx.jevelopers.com&gt; wrote: > Hi Martin, > > it is terribly complicated and wrong to do it (I totally agree), > but still possible. (As I said, I would never want to see anything > like that) > As such rendering a) to maybe not the best "wrong" answer. > > The problem with d) being true, is that there are plenty of horrible > ways I could come up to register managed beans ;) > > Still there should be a question about managed beans, and b,c and d, > should be in the answers. > Maybe we can either tweak the question, or change a) a bit, but I am > also O.K. with having the question as is. > I don't want to be a "Haarspalter" (quibbler?), especially if I can > not think of a better wrong answer :D > > Maybe: > a) by putting the bean into the session-map? > > which would make the bean usable in EL, as if it were a managed-bean. > But not registering it, nor does this make the bean managed. > > or: > a) by calling > FacesContext.getApplication().registerManagedBean(String > name, Class<?> beanClass) > ... no comment :) > > regards > Imre > > > > On 18.12.2009, at 02:25, Martin Marinschek wrote: > >> Hi Imre, >> >> I don't know of a d) which is used like this (with some DI- >> containers, >> you can of course do it, although nobody I have seen does it). In >> any >> case, it really sounds terribly complicated and wrong to do it, and >> not at all like a correct answer, while the other 3 all sound >> right to >> me. >> >> But - maybe it's just me, so help me out: please give me a better >> suggestion for a) if you think it is not yet far enough from the >> truth.... >> >> regards, >> >> Martin >> >> On 12/18/09, Imre Osswald <ioss(a)mx.jevelopers.com&gt; wrote: >>> Hi Martin, >>> >>> how "hard you have to push" depends on what "register" and "Managed >>> Bean" really means. >>> But let's say we have a d) which allows me to register Managed >>> Beans >>> dynamically, then you could have groovy code in your view >>> definition, >>> that gets executed and registers the MB. >>> While I am pretty sure, this is something I don't want to see in >>> any >>> view definition I have to work with, it would still be possible. >>> (About using groovy in the view-definition see: >>> http://blog.jevelopers.com/archives/4-Project-Frisco-started.html) >>> >>> regards, >>> Imre >>> >>> On 18.12.2009, at 00:30, Martin Marinschek wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Imre, >>>> >>>> d) is certainly valid with more than one bean container right now. >>>> In >>>> which context is a) valid? Never heard of anything like this. >>>> >>>> I don't think potential exam-takers will read this list, if they >>>> do, I >>>> think it's ok if they pass the exam ;) >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Martin >>>> >>>> On 12/17/09, Imre Osswald <ioss(a)mx.jevelopers.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> If d) is valid and you push hard enough you can make a) valid >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> But my actual question is, if we publish the questions and >>>>> answers >>>>> here on an open list, will they still be usable in an exam? :) >>>>> >>>>> Imre >>>>> >>>>> On 17.12.2009, at 16:37, Martin Marinschek wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would have said that b, c and d are all three valid answers. >>>>>> Can't >>>>>> we have multiple valid answers? >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/17/09, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David Geary >>>>>>> <clarity.training(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2009/12/17 Martin Marinschek <mmarinschek(a)apache.org&gt; >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I won't chime in for the distractors, but here my question: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How can you register a managed bean with JSF2? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a) Using groovy in the view definition >>>>>>>>> b) Using XML-code in the faces configuration file >>>>>>>>> c) Using annotations in the Java-Code of the managed-bean >>>>>>>>> d) Using other JSF2 compliant bean-containers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> c) ... (@ManagedBean or @Named) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dan Allen >>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action >>>>>>> Registered Linux User #231597 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://mojavelinux.com >>>>>>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction >>>>>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.irian.at >>>>>> >>>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>>>> Courses in English and German >>>>>> >>>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> http://www.irian.at >>>> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and >>>> Courses in English and German >>>> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://www.irian.at >> >> Your JSF powerhouse - >> JSF Consulting, Development and >> Courses in English and German >> >> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces