DA> Ed, Roger and other members of the JSR-314 EG, [...] Hi Dan and other experts, I'd like to remind everyone that the "EG disbands after the JSR is done" and "JSR sponsor is encouraged but not required to consult the former EG" processes are the way we've done things for years. Also, we also limit the changes we make within an MR to small, well understood changes. Nothing I've said changes that. Dan, you're certainly within your rights in maintaining this stance. As we continue to make minor enhancements to JSF through the JCP minor revision process, I sincerely hope that RedHat will follow through on its responsibilities as a JCP member when it comes to reviewing change-logs and spec drafts in the minor revision process. Roger and I feel the same way about the esprit de corp of this expert group. It really is a great group of people and I will do everything I can to ensure the JSF team in the JCP stays a fun place to work. Per the process I've outlined here, the JCP MR process does provide a way to reject proposed changes and send them to a JCP body for full discussion. Of course, in the spirit of the way the expert group has been run since day one, I hope changes can happen amicably here, at least as a first resort, and only via the EC as a last resort. Sincerely, Ed Burns -- | edward.burns(a)oracle.com | office: +1 407 458 0017 | homepage: | http://ridingthecrest.com/