>>>>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:45:05 +0200, Martin Marinschek >>>>> <mmarinschek(a)apache.org&gt; said: MM> Hi guys, MM> ok, sounds good - let's keep it at your suggestion. I will live with MM> the difference in APIs. MM> Question: do we also need an eval - again, to keep symmetry? I happen to agree with Martin on this, not Blake and Andy. I'm composing an omnibus reply for JSF 2.1 open issues presently. Ed -- | edward.burns(a)oracle.com | office: +1 407 458 0017 | homepage: | http://ridingthecrest.com/ | 11 work days until German Oracle User's Group Conference